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welcome travel back in time with us

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right now for rare UFO content

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have UFOs crashed on Earth have we have

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we alien contact is the U.S government

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covering up a massive UFO conspiracy

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behind me is one of the most secret

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military bases in the world deep in the

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heart of the Nevada desert the a groom

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Lake test site also known as Area 51 or

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Dreamland has been home to U.S stealth

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projects since the second world war

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however in recent years a more

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disturbing story has emerged and that is

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that the government is back engineering

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recovered alien spacecraft tonight based

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on evidence given to us by top military

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personnel engineers and scientists we

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can exclusively reveal the UFO

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technology that's been developed behind

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me it's a story the US government has

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tried to cover up for half a century the

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truth behind Dreamland

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I am convinced based on my research and

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the individuals whom I've had contact in

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the U.S intelligence community that the

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U.S government does indeed have a craft

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that meet the description of many of the

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UFO reports the whole aim of the project

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was to take these draft or the one in

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particular that I was working on and try

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and duplicate its systems and subsystems

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with Earthly materials I'm convinced

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Beyond doubt that we have recovered

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aircraft alien vehicles

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that we have made contact with aliens

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that we are communicating with them in

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some way or form

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and that we have vehicles and bodies in

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preservation I was at that moment

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standing on the deck of the radar van it

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was night time

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and uh I was looking up in the sky

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because there were saucers up there

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were there any alien bodies were covered

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no bodies there were four live

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full life extraterrestrials for alive

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feeling good extraterrestrial type

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individuals yes

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they are here whoever they are wherever

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they came up from whatever they're doing

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um other intelligences are messing

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around on our planet I think that too

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many people's butts are on the line with

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this that they lied to us too long that

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that a lot of people have stolen

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legitimate National Security money to

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keep this cover-up going that they have

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uh perpetuated disinformation schemes on

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the American public probably on the

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British public the Air Force knows

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but there was a grand saucer there were

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alien bodies recovered that there have

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been aircrafts that have gone up to

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chase UFOs and have not come back they

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know that we're dealing with the biggest

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story of the millennium

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set on a remote dry lake bed 80 miles

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outside Las Vegas Area 51 is just one

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part of the massive Nellis Air Force

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Base which is roughly the same size as

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Switzerland

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it was commissioned by President Truman

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in the 1950s as a top secret location to

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develop and test America's new

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generation of post-war aircraft

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in the technology fever of the 1950s the

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base humor came home to the most exotic

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flying craft of its day

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more recently it is where the F-117

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Stealth aircraft was developed and test

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this is an area that has been known but

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officially denied for many decades we go

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back quite a ways into the 40s and 50s

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with the development of the U2 spy plane

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the SR-71 all of our super secret

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aircraft have been developed in Teflon

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out in this particular area

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the a12 from its Inception through its

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retirement was operated out of only two

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locations uh Area 51 at Groom Lake was

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its original home the first aircraft was

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delivered there in January of 62. and

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the last airplane left on June 21st

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the U.S Air Force denies that area 51

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exists despite footage of the base and

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Russian satellite photos that we have

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obtained which clearly show hangers and

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a huge Runway stretching across the lake

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bed

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in the face of constant denials of its

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existence the base has expanded since

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the 50s with several passenger Jets now

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Landing every day carrying hundreds of

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workers to the base

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with this level of personnel the few

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buildings that can be observed above the

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ground are merely the cover for a large

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underground facility

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security at the base is unprecedented

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and secrecy is Paramount since the late

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50s the military has sequestered

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hundreds of thousands of acres of land

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that adjoined the base the exclusion

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Zone around Area 51 now stretches to 26

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the secret state of the base is very

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very well preserved

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and even if people are talking about the

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operation of the u-2s back in the 1950s

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40 years ago they're still not allowed

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to identify the base by by name or by

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location all they can say is it is a

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remote facility this place is an old

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anachronism from the Cold War this is a

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place that that Harkens back to the old

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continuing to treat it as a top secret

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facility it doesn't exist it attracts

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attention naturally everyone wants to

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know what goes on here

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there is no question that the facility

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is there that the government has said

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very little in the past about it that it

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has the right to test things like the U2

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people forget the stealth aircraft over

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10 million dollars spent on developing

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it and more than a decade before its

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that's what you do out at Groom Lake now

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the real question I suppose is are there

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ourselves flying at an altitude of ten

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having made contact with the tower we

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soon found out how seriously Area 51

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guards its airspace

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we're just curious if there is there any

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how did the Groom Lake area

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I don't have any of that information

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approach controller now is just getting

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a little concerned that we're getting

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Fighters they they passed on fire at

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about eight hundred to a thousand miles

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an hour these guys aren't messing around

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they don't want us to be here but

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there's another one just go by the Bell

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there that's no they're trying to get us

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land there goes another one well that

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that was amazing

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they have a tea cast on board so they

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definitely had radar contact with us

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in 1989 one man blew the lid of

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claimed to have worked at the Groom Lake

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site back engineering recovered alien

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the base

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small Mountain big hill there are nine

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not just shiny metal out in the desert

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they are painted or sprayed with a sand

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texture to them and from what I can

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to prevent satellites from photographing

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the installation so they look like the

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mountain range it was yeah

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it's pretty effective from what I can

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on the first occasion when I drove out

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there all the hangar doors were closed

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of the installation and there was the

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main entrance in there and went through

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power the the reactor that that ran the

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craft with the clearance that I had that

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was known as Majestic clearance there

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are only 22 people at S4 with that

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the location he worked on at Area 51 was

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called S4 and was housed on purpose dry

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when I was brought in

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by bus normally we had gone around to

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the left side of the installation and

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science fiction movie and we stopped got

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out and for the first time I was led in

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and as I walked in there I thought

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well this is the new Advanced aircraft

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we've been working on and this is why

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people keep seeing flying saucers

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because it's ours and we've just been

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testing it probably for all these years

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um and when I walked alongside it I ran

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my hand on it uh I say it it's metal

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because it was cold so I just uh assume

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it was a some sort of metal and in fact

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an opening there and it had a little

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backwards American Flag stuck on it so I

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was positive it was something we had

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manufactured

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I was allowed in the craft on one

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occasion to see the placement of these

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systems in case it was important to

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their operation so I was of course

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escorted in the craft and um

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it was obviously made

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to be piloted by something smaller than

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the average human being very cramped in

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was a sub level where a little

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collapsing floor member opened and I

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could stick my head in Upper torso down

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underneath of the flashlight to see how

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the gravity amplifiers hung upside down

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uh looked around the placement of the

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one-fourth the size of a normal human

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at one point that one point when I was

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one of the archways became transparent

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something else that I had no knowledge

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of so and also something began to scroll

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up on the screen so it might have been

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whether under you know electrical

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influence or something else could at

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times become either transparent to look

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that was pretty amazing when I went

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outside and looked at it it looked as if

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been exciting to go on there and I

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always say it wasn't it was a very

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ominous feeling it um

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you really had to because it's so I know

285
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it sounds silly but it it it's so

286
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nothing had a sharp edge to it it was

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this it was if um the seats

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the amplifiers that were in there

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everything

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as if it was made out of wax and heated

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for just a little bit and then cooled

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off everything had a smooth curve to it

293
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even where the a chair met the floor was

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was blended into it it was if the entire

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that's alone Bob Lazar have been able to

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verify any of his academic or

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professional credentials in 1990 he was

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convicted of pandering and declared

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bankrupt in court he simply described

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his occupation as a self-employed photo

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processor islazara fraud did he work at

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S4 or was he set up by the military to

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release certain information about the

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the notion that he would make a great

305
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Patsy and he's the perfect scientist to

306
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work in such a project is interesting

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science fiction and the first place we

308
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have no reason to say he's a scientist

309
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no diplomas no papers no memberships

310
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nothing in the second place I worked on

311
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security for 14 years it'll take

312
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security far more seriously than that

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one of the strange statements he's made

314
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there are only 22 people working on this

315
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thing well you get more than that

316
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working on devising a new mousetrap for

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the government anyway that makes no

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sense

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and you know it has all the trimmings

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his story of a Walter Mitty story

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somebody in his imagination was you know

322
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stronger brighter faster than anybody

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else

324
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did a variety of research relative to

325
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Bob Lazar actually met him I obtained a

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copy of his uh what they call a W-2 form

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which is one of the IRS documents

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associated with with pay uh his

329
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particular form indicated that he worked

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for the U.S department of Naval

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intelligence

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um my investigation of this document and

333
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the claims that deposar made uh followed

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a a very strict path of sound research I

335
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contacted the U.S department of Naval

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intelligence and indeed uh verified that

337
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they were likely responsible for

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presenting that W-2 I investigated the

339
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issue with the Internal Revenue Service

340
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they informed me the exact words were it

341
00:16:32,930 --> 00:16:31,440
appears to be legit that it was a

342
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genuine document it was not something

343
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that had been fabricated there were a

344
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variety of numbers contract numbers and

345
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so forth issued on the document which I

346
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was able to research again finding that

347
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these were highly classified numbers in

348
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fact Internal Revenue Service ran into a

349
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brick wall when it came to trying to

350
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track down the actual employer

351
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associated with it with the document he

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gave me us information about his

353
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background educational background and

354
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employment background I started with uh

355
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with his claim to have worked at Los

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Alamos lab I figured well that's a good

357
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starting point if he worked at Los

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Alamos it's pretty likely that he had an

359
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education somewhere they don't just hire

360
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people off the street and if he worked

361
00:17:18,770 --> 00:17:16,679
at Los Alamos especially on classified

362
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projects it's at least reasonable to

363
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assume he could have been hired

364
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somewhere else in Nevada to work on

365
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similar projects we went to Los Alamos

366
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and got nothing even close to

367
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cooperation they wouldn't respond to our

368
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phone calls they say we have no

369
00:17:34,789 --> 00:17:33,179
information on Bob Bazaar there's

370
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nothing in the files I said are you sure

371
00:17:39,650 --> 00:17:37,020
now no nothing in the files I showed

372
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them the phone book entry that Bob had

373
00:17:44,029 --> 00:17:42,179
kept that said he was there I showed him

374
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the newspaper article that that showed

375
00:17:48,710 --> 00:17:46,380
that he was there are you certain that

376
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you don't have a Bob Lazar well maybe we

377
00:17:52,070 --> 00:17:50,820
had a Bob Lazar here's an ID number but

378
00:17:55,669 --> 00:17:52,080
he didn't work for us he worked for

379
00:17:58,430 --> 00:17:55,679
someone else basically Los Alamos lab

380
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tried to thwart me at every step were

381
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completely uncooperative in trying to

382
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get information about Bob and I found

383
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that to be the case at every step of the

384
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way and trying to verify his background

385
00:18:10,490 --> 00:18:08,940
I'm the one that couldn't find any

386
00:18:12,650 --> 00:18:10,500
records or any I mean I'm the one that

387
00:18:14,330 --> 00:18:12,660
brought that up to say it was the first

388
00:18:15,529 --> 00:18:14,340
one to run into that initially I

389
00:18:16,789 --> 00:18:15,539
couldn't find couldn't get a hold of my

390
00:18:18,650 --> 00:18:16,799
birth certificate either and that was

391
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one of the things that concerned me is

392
00:18:22,250 --> 00:18:20,039
they might

393
00:18:23,570 --> 00:18:22,260
be trying to make me essentially a

394
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non-person

395
00:18:28,850 --> 00:18:27,120
I think it's most likely that Bob Lazar

396
00:18:30,890 --> 00:18:28,860
was indeed set up

397
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to be the conduit for certain

398
00:18:35,150 --> 00:18:32,940
information relating to this

399
00:18:37,789 --> 00:18:35,160
extraterrestrial project

400
00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:37,799
on one occasion in the desert Bob Lazar

401
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saw a flying disc being tested

402
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[Music]

403
00:18:46,850 --> 00:18:44,280
where's brought into the hangar for one

404
00:18:48,710 --> 00:18:46,860
of the short duration tests and the

405
00:18:51,470 --> 00:18:48,720
craft was already outside on the lake

406
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bed and lifts it off silently and

407
00:18:55,850 --> 00:18:53,760
drifted around for a bit sat back down

408
00:18:59,330 --> 00:18:55,860
and that was pretty much of a marvelous

409
00:19:00,770 --> 00:18:59,340
sight it's a huge thing it it's like

410
00:19:02,990 --> 00:19:00,780
seeing a house lift off the ground

411
00:19:05,150 --> 00:19:03,000
quietly it's just you can't imagine the

412
00:19:07,430 --> 00:19:05,160
energy involved to do that and not to

413
00:19:12,350 --> 00:19:07,440
make any noise at all there was some

414
00:19:14,510 --> 00:19:12,360
audio communication with the craft and

415
00:19:16,430 --> 00:19:14,520
so I can only assume that there were

416
00:19:17,990 --> 00:19:16,440
humans on board and somehow they had

417
00:19:19,669 --> 00:19:18,000
managed to squeeze themselves into those

418
00:19:22,430 --> 00:19:19,679
little seats or put something in there

419
00:19:24,710 --> 00:19:22,440
to sit on and obviously they knew how to

420
00:19:27,110 --> 00:19:24,720
operate whatever controls there was or

421
00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:27,120
fabricate their own or retrofit it with

422
00:19:34,850 --> 00:19:32,090
[Music]

423
00:19:37,610 --> 00:19:34,860
these missions of the 1960s stirred

424
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America into space fever but as the

425
00:19:42,590 --> 00:19:39,600
country's finest astronauts hurtled

426
00:19:44,270 --> 00:19:42,600
skywards in conventional Rockets did the

427
00:19:46,909 --> 00:19:44,280
president know of the existence of

428
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sources and propulsion systems that were

429
00:20:00,909 --> 00:19:48,840
literally out of this world

430
00:20:12,350 --> 00:20:03,060
thank you

431
00:20:14,690 --> 00:20:12,360
[Music]

432
00:20:17,090 --> 00:20:14,700
Dr Edgar Mitchell of the Apollo 14

433
00:20:19,070 --> 00:20:17,100
Mission and the sixth man to walk on the

434
00:20:21,470 --> 00:20:19,080
moon has carried out extensive

435
00:20:23,750 --> 00:20:21,480
investigations of the alleged saucer

436
00:20:28,490 --> 00:20:23,760
crashes as well as the question of alien

437
00:20:30,950 --> 00:20:28,500
contact he met Lazar in 1991 I tend to

438
00:20:34,090 --> 00:20:30,960
believe that his basic story is true

439
00:20:37,310 --> 00:20:34,100
that he was too exposed to

440
00:20:39,710 --> 00:20:37,320
what he thought were alien craft and

441
00:20:42,890 --> 00:20:39,720
attempted engineering back engineer I

442
00:20:45,710 --> 00:20:42,900
think that his explanation of what's

443
00:20:48,289 --> 00:20:45,720
going on and his theory that he's

444
00:20:50,150 --> 00:20:48,299
utilizing is probably not on target what

445
00:20:51,169 --> 00:20:50,160
I think is credible is the fact that he

446
00:20:54,590 --> 00:20:51,179
was there

447
00:20:56,049 --> 00:20:54,600
oh since the Roswell incident in

448
00:20:58,970 --> 00:20:56,059
97

449
00:21:01,970 --> 00:20:58,980
that there was a cover-up that that was

450
00:21:05,990 --> 00:21:01,980
a valid incident and that there has been

451
00:21:08,169 --> 00:21:06,000
an active investigation program reverse

452
00:21:12,740 --> 00:21:08,179
engineering program and cover-up

453
00:21:19,730 --> 00:21:16,850
[Music]

454
00:21:22,130 --> 00:21:19,740
after working at S4 for several months

455
00:21:25,190 --> 00:21:22,140
and in clear violation of his top secret

456
00:21:27,890 --> 00:21:25,200
clearance Bob Lazar decided to tell his

457
00:21:30,770 --> 00:21:27,900
closest friend Gene huff about his work

458
00:21:36,230 --> 00:21:34,010
my reaction was to without pressing him

459
00:21:39,649 --> 00:21:36,240
against his will find out more get him

460
00:21:42,289 --> 00:21:39,659
to tell me anything I could and it

461
00:21:44,750 --> 00:21:42,299
wasn't disbelief I I think I was

462
00:21:46,669 --> 00:21:44,760
actually motivated to further read I

463
00:21:49,310 --> 00:21:46,679
started investigating investigating

464
00:21:50,990 --> 00:21:49,320
other books on UFOs and other

465
00:21:52,850 --> 00:21:51,000
researchers information to see if anyone

466
00:21:57,110 --> 00:21:52,860
knew anything and needless to say they

467
00:22:03,590 --> 00:22:00,830
one month later in March 1989 Bob Lazar

468
00:22:05,990 --> 00:22:03,600
went one step further he decided to take

469
00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:06,000
his friends to the desert and show them

470
00:22:11,590 --> 00:22:08,490
a flying disc test

471
00:22:14,630 --> 00:22:11,600
[Music]

472
00:22:17,510 --> 00:22:14,640
I remember in most of the days and times

473
00:22:20,270 --> 00:22:17,520
of testing so I believe it was eight or

474
00:22:23,630 --> 00:22:20,280
nine o'clock on a Wednesday night

475
00:22:26,570 --> 00:22:23,640
when we're in March 89 I believe we went

476
00:22:32,330 --> 00:22:26,580
out with Gene Huff

477
00:22:38,810 --> 00:22:34,549
shortly after the flight time that I had

478
00:22:41,570 --> 00:22:38,820
recorded white light came up off the

479
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ground and covered and then be doing

480
00:22:47,570 --> 00:22:45,539
began doing radical step Maneuvers and

481
00:22:49,070 --> 00:22:47,580
darting from one side of the sky to the

482
00:22:52,370 --> 00:22:49,080
other day you're doing some impossible

483
00:22:54,770 --> 00:22:52,380
flight characteristics but at times the

484
00:22:57,590 --> 00:22:54,780
craft had you know glowed tremendously

485
00:22:59,270 --> 00:22:57,600
bright where we thought on being Miles

486
00:23:00,470 --> 00:22:59,280
and Miles Away we thought there was

487
00:23:02,270 --> 00:23:00,480
something wrong and the craft is going

488
00:23:05,930 --> 00:23:02,280
to explode so much so that we all got

489
00:23:09,529 --> 00:23:08,149
it actually came closer it came down the

490
00:23:11,750 --> 00:23:09,539
mountain range toward us to where we

491
00:23:15,370 --> 00:23:11,760
could actually see it was elliptically

492
00:23:18,169 --> 00:23:15,380
shaped it looked like something that

493
00:23:20,570 --> 00:23:18,179
it's it's strange to explain it looks

494
00:23:22,370 --> 00:23:20,580
like an explosion that starts to explode

495
00:23:24,289 --> 00:23:22,380
and stops and doesn't explode and

496
00:23:26,690 --> 00:23:24,299
dissipate that's how bright the light is

497
00:23:28,909 --> 00:23:26,700
your brain interprets it as an explosion

498
00:23:30,409 --> 00:23:28,919
about to happen

499
00:23:32,510 --> 00:23:30,419
together

500
00:23:35,090 --> 00:23:32,520
on his third visit with his friends to

501
00:23:37,490 --> 00:23:35,100
observe the discs at night Bob Lazar was

502
00:23:40,010 --> 00:23:37,500
arrested he was taken to an unknown

503
00:23:43,210 --> 00:23:40,020
location for interrogation and never

504
00:23:45,649 --> 00:23:43,220
returned to error 51.

505
00:23:47,690 --> 00:23:45,659
they threatened my wife they threatened

506
00:23:49,370 --> 00:23:47,700
to kill my wife they said they'd stop at

507
00:23:50,690 --> 00:23:49,380
nothing they said they thought they made

508
00:23:52,430 --> 00:23:50,700
that very clear they couldn't believe

509
00:23:53,990 --> 00:23:52,440
that I had taken anyone out there to

510
00:23:57,370 --> 00:23:54,000
show him that much less left with

511
00:24:00,350 --> 00:23:57,380
information like the flight test data

512
00:24:02,149 --> 00:24:00,360
and wanted to know what else I had said

513
00:24:05,270 --> 00:24:02,159
who else I had told specifically

514
00:24:06,890 --> 00:24:05,280
security Agents from the ofi the office

515
00:24:09,529 --> 00:24:06,900
of federal investigation had been

516
00:24:12,409 --> 00:24:09,539
witnessed doing random Security checks

517
00:24:14,990 --> 00:24:12,419
in his house uh there was almost no

518
00:24:18,110 --> 00:24:15,000
question in anyone's mind anyone in in

519
00:24:19,549 --> 00:24:18,120
Bob's immediate life who who talked with

520
00:24:21,289 --> 00:24:19,559
him on the telephone that his phone was

521
00:24:23,630 --> 00:24:21,299
tapped I mean strange things would have

522
00:24:25,850 --> 00:24:23,640
it on Bob's phone and really continue to

523
00:24:28,310 --> 00:24:25,860
this day Dennis Mariani who was my

524
00:24:29,570 --> 00:24:28,320
supervisor called and all he said was do

525
00:24:31,549 --> 00:24:29,580
you have any idea what we're going to do

526
00:24:33,470 --> 00:24:31,559
to you now and that was the end of the

527
00:24:35,930 --> 00:24:33,480
phone call

528
00:24:39,909 --> 00:24:35,940
they were they were crazy they really

529
00:24:44,210 --> 00:24:41,930
when you go to work out at those

530
00:24:45,770 --> 00:24:44,220
locations you sign away your

531
00:24:47,570 --> 00:24:45,780
constitutional rights

532
00:24:50,270 --> 00:24:47,580
you sign a piece of paper saying that if

533
00:24:51,950 --> 00:24:50,280
you violate your security agreement and

534
00:24:54,710 --> 00:24:51,960
you discuss programs that you're working

535
00:24:55,730 --> 00:24:54,720
on without a trial without right of

536
00:24:57,230 --> 00:24:55,740
appeal

537
00:24:59,630 --> 00:24:57,240
you're going to go to Leavenworth

538
00:25:01,250 --> 00:24:59,640
federal penitentiary for 20 years that's

539
00:25:03,350 --> 00:25:01,260
a real big incentive to keep your mouth

540
00:25:05,029 --> 00:25:03,360
shut we had an engineer who worked at

541
00:25:07,549 --> 00:25:05,039
this TV station who before he was here

542
00:25:09,649 --> 00:25:07,559
had worked at Area 51 and have seen one

543
00:25:11,149 --> 00:25:09,659
of these crafts under a tarp

544
00:25:13,430 --> 00:25:11,159
walked into a place he probably

545
00:25:14,630 --> 00:25:13,440
shouldn't have been I arranged to do an

546
00:25:17,270 --> 00:25:14,640
interview with him he lives in another

547
00:25:19,070 --> 00:25:17,280
city in another state he agreed

548
00:25:20,750 --> 00:25:19,080
reluctantly as long as I would block out

549
00:25:22,490 --> 00:25:20,760
his face well we make the Arrangements

550
00:25:24,649 --> 00:25:22,500
on the phone the interview is supposed

551
00:25:26,810 --> 00:25:24,659
to happen the next day he gets up goes

552
00:25:29,090 --> 00:25:26,820
to work there are two men in a car

553
00:25:29,870 --> 00:25:29,100
outside of his house talking into a

554
00:25:31,730 --> 00:25:29,880
radio

555
00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:31,740
they follow him to work when he gets out

556
00:25:35,810 --> 00:25:33,840
of work they follow him home

557
00:25:38,750 --> 00:25:35,820
no interview I mean it happened again

558
00:25:41,210 --> 00:25:38,760
and again and again same scenario it has

559
00:25:42,710 --> 00:25:41,220
been very difficult to talk about this

560
00:25:45,470 --> 00:25:42,720
it's almost like

561
00:25:46,909 --> 00:25:45,480
uh every time I relate the story it gets

562
00:25:48,409 --> 00:25:46,919
a little easier but when I first started

563
00:25:50,570 --> 00:25:48,419
talking about it it was like my mouth

564
00:25:51,950 --> 00:25:50,580
didn't even want to form the words and

565
00:25:53,210 --> 00:25:51,960
the sound didn't even want to come out

566
00:25:56,750 --> 00:25:53,220
of my throat

567
00:25:58,549 --> 00:25:56,760
uh so I can only guess from that that

568
00:26:01,310 --> 00:25:58,559
there is a very strong

569
00:26:03,529 --> 00:26:01,320
uh suggestion given to me not to talk

570
00:26:05,090 --> 00:26:03,539
about this not to remember it and if I

571
00:26:06,769 --> 00:26:05,100
did remember it not to ever talk about

572
00:26:09,289 --> 00:26:06,779
it to anyone

573
00:26:12,169 --> 00:26:09,299
this man is a 71 year old mechanical

574
00:26:15,049 --> 00:26:12,179
engineer who like Bob Lazar claims to

575
00:26:18,049 --> 00:26:15,059
have worked at area 51. he started

576
00:26:21,049 --> 00:26:18,059
working there in the 1950s on a flowing

577
00:26:23,510 --> 00:26:21,059
disc simulator built to train U.S Pilots

578
00:26:25,730 --> 00:26:23,520
he said he's been given permission to

579
00:26:28,789 --> 00:26:25,740
talk to us about certain specific

580
00:26:34,490 --> 00:26:28,799
aspects of his work but asked us not to

581
00:26:39,289 --> 00:26:36,230
that's interesting

582
00:26:40,610 --> 00:26:39,299
this particular one

583
00:26:52,730 --> 00:26:40,620
tattoo

584
00:27:10,430 --> 00:27:02,149
s

585
00:27:16,130 --> 00:27:13,750
initially ever taken in Mexico

586
00:27:19,370 --> 00:27:16,140
and then several months later they were

587
00:27:21,470 --> 00:27:19,380
taken through the Nevada Nevada City

588
00:27:25,850 --> 00:27:21,480
one of the things I worked on was a

589
00:27:29,570 --> 00:27:25,860
flying this simulator to train Pilots

590
00:27:32,830 --> 00:27:29,580
to uh to fly

591
00:27:37,090 --> 00:27:32,840
this strange strange looking craft

592
00:27:39,250 --> 00:27:37,100
designed for humans to fly

593
00:27:42,610 --> 00:27:39,260
not for any

594
00:27:48,230 --> 00:27:45,590
his most Fantastical claim was that he

595
00:27:51,169 --> 00:27:48,240
worked at Area 51 with an alien code

596
00:27:53,649 --> 00:27:51,179
named j-rod the 16 years on this

597
00:27:57,950 --> 00:27:53,659
simulator project

598
00:28:01,010 --> 00:27:57,960
j-rod is a gray alien of five foot four

599
00:28:03,830 --> 00:28:01,020
his role was only as a as a translator

600
00:28:04,850 --> 00:28:03,840
scientific translator that was all if we

601
00:28:06,710 --> 00:28:04,860
wanted it

602
00:28:09,350 --> 00:28:06,720
to put something in the place of what

603
00:28:12,350 --> 00:28:09,360
they had he had to agree with it

604
00:28:13,610 --> 00:28:12,360
I would have a question uh you know and

605
00:28:15,649 --> 00:28:13,620
I would

606
00:28:17,510 --> 00:28:15,659
bring it up in my mind I just saw I

607
00:28:18,890 --> 00:28:17,520
wanted to present it with him and he

608
00:28:20,149 --> 00:28:18,900
didn't really know that I had this

609
00:28:22,610 --> 00:28:20,159
question

610
00:28:26,390 --> 00:28:22,620
and he would already have the answer for

611
00:28:27,470 --> 00:28:26,400
me and if he responded it would be in my

612
00:28:29,810 --> 00:28:27,480
voice

613
00:28:33,470 --> 00:28:29,820
and you wouldn't even open your lips

614
00:28:36,470 --> 00:28:33,480
it is possible that he and a few

615
00:28:39,890 --> 00:28:36,480
thousand others are working on a project

616
00:28:42,590 --> 00:28:39,900
either here or elsewhere

617
00:28:45,100 --> 00:28:42,600
just a few thousand other grays

618
00:28:47,570 --> 00:28:45,110
a few thousand other Grays like himself

619
00:28:50,149 --> 00:28:47,580
[Music]

620
00:28:53,450 --> 00:28:50,159
the nearest town to Area 51 is Rachel

621
00:28:55,789 --> 00:28:53,460
population 150 and home to the most

622
00:28:57,950 --> 00:28:55,799
famous Bar and Grill in Nevada the

623
00:28:59,870 --> 00:28:57,960
little alien

624
00:29:02,330 --> 00:28:59,880
the local residents have seen their

625
00:29:05,090 --> 00:29:02,340
Highway truck stop turned into the UFO

626
00:29:07,430 --> 00:29:05,100
and ET Center of America

627
00:29:10,850 --> 00:29:07,440
tourists flock to Rachel to scan the

628
00:29:12,649 --> 00:29:10,860
skies in the hope of having a sighting

629
00:29:14,890 --> 00:29:12,659
for all the hype the sightings of

630
00:29:18,110 --> 00:29:14,900
bizarre lights in the sky do continue

631
00:29:22,450 --> 00:29:18,120
local resident Chuck Clark has had many

632
00:29:25,250 --> 00:29:22,460
unexplainable sightings the most uh

633
00:29:27,830 --> 00:29:25,260
remarkable sighting that I've had in the

634
00:29:32,870 --> 00:29:27,840
last three years took place uh two years

635
00:29:35,990 --> 00:29:32,880
ago February February of 93. I watched a

636
00:29:39,529 --> 00:29:36,000
glowing object Ascend vertically from

637
00:29:42,409 --> 00:29:39,539
the area south of Area 51 where S4 would

638
00:29:44,330 --> 00:29:42,419
be located uh hang most was in the air

639
00:29:46,970 --> 00:29:44,340
for about 10 minutes and then slowly

640
00:29:48,830 --> 00:29:46,980
start to descend all of this while I

641
00:29:51,110 --> 00:29:48,840
thought I was watching a illumination

642
00:29:52,490 --> 00:29:51,120
flare that was launched from a mortar

643
00:29:55,549 --> 00:29:52,500
tube

644
00:29:59,690 --> 00:29:55,559
I can hear jets in the background

645
00:30:02,769 --> 00:30:01,310
just looking straight over Steve

646
00:30:05,690 --> 00:30:02,779
medlin's Ranch

647
00:30:09,710 --> 00:30:05,700
this is right over the Peaks once it got

648
00:30:11,389 --> 00:30:09,720
down to the ridge line however uh it was

649
00:30:13,010 --> 00:30:11,399
in front of the Hill that had cut that

650
00:30:14,690 --> 00:30:13,020
it had come up from behind Hill was

651
00:30:15,769 --> 00:30:14,700
about 12 and a half miles from my

652
00:30:18,649 --> 00:30:15,779
position

653
00:30:20,810 --> 00:30:18,659
uh it came down

654
00:30:23,630 --> 00:30:20,820
to a few feet above the ground at the

655
00:30:25,310 --> 00:30:23,640
base of the Hill hovered momentarily

656
00:30:27,529 --> 00:30:25,320
which is still consistent with what a

657
00:30:30,529 --> 00:30:27,539
fleur might do in Calamar but then

658
00:30:33,110 --> 00:30:30,539
suddenly it shot off Westward covered

659
00:30:36,649 --> 00:30:33,120
4.8 miles and one to one and a half

660
00:30:39,350 --> 00:30:36,659
seconds and stopped cold also about 30

661
00:30:40,970 --> 00:30:39,360
feet off the ground hovered just long

662
00:30:43,010 --> 00:30:40,980
enough for me to get a focus to my

663
00:30:44,390 --> 00:30:43,020
binoculars for maybe two seconds and

664
00:30:47,210 --> 00:30:44,400
then it vanished right in place

665
00:30:50,750 --> 00:30:47,220
[Music]

666
00:30:54,289 --> 00:30:50,760
we've seen video of craft that were

667
00:30:57,110 --> 00:30:54,299
luminous that would move across the sky

668
00:30:59,389 --> 00:30:57,120
as if it was uh skipping a stone across

669
00:31:01,490 --> 00:30:59,399
water or sort of a sewing machine effect

670
00:31:05,389 --> 00:31:01,500
what we see across the screen or a

671
00:31:07,250 --> 00:31:05,399
series of Lights of dashes of light as

672
00:31:10,610 --> 00:31:07,260
the object moves from point A to point B

673
00:31:12,769 --> 00:31:10,620
and a rather strange warping occurs

674
00:31:14,930 --> 00:31:12,779
that's very difficult to unravel until

675
00:31:17,510 --> 00:31:14,940
you go frame by frame and you begin to

676
00:31:20,210 --> 00:31:17,520
see what is actually occurring therefore

677
00:31:22,490 --> 00:31:20,220
we are seeing what you might call a

678
00:31:24,490 --> 00:31:22,500
shadow effect of the propulsion

679
00:31:31,010 --> 00:31:24,500
mechanism at work

680
00:31:34,070 --> 00:31:31,020
[Music]

681
00:31:38,210 --> 00:31:35,870
I've spoken to several people who've

682
00:31:40,430 --> 00:31:38,220
seen UFOs or disc shaped craft out there

683
00:31:42,289 --> 00:31:40,440
uh an attorney who lives here in town

684
00:31:45,110 --> 00:31:42,299
who has seen one who saw one land

685
00:31:47,149 --> 00:31:45,120
outside the boundaries of area 51. I've

686
00:31:48,889 --> 00:31:47,159
spoken to a very high level managerial

687
00:31:51,110 --> 00:31:48,899
type who worked for a defense contractor

688
00:31:54,169 --> 00:31:51,120
out there for a number of years from a

689
00:31:55,909 --> 00:31:54,179
very respectable reputable family his

690
00:31:58,610 --> 00:31:55,919
credentials are Beyond question but he

691
00:32:00,830 --> 00:31:58,620
doesn't want his name or face used and

692
00:32:04,010 --> 00:32:00,840
he has seen them many times there were a

693
00:32:06,529 --> 00:32:04,020
variety of craft that were all

694
00:32:08,149 --> 00:32:06,539
essentially generically uh sort of

695
00:32:10,310 --> 00:32:08,159
canister shape I guess you'd say they

696
00:32:13,310 --> 00:32:10,320
were predominantly disc shape or rounded

697
00:32:14,810 --> 00:32:13,320
like a one of those Chinese lanterns or

698
00:32:17,269 --> 00:32:14,820
something or other they appear to be

699
00:32:19,789 --> 00:32:17,279
colorful uh at least they were

700
00:32:23,990 --> 00:32:19,799
multi-colored in addition to the lights

701
00:32:25,970 --> 00:32:24,000
that seemed to be able to take on uh the

702
00:32:28,250 --> 00:32:25,980
light of the background they could

703
00:32:31,010 --> 00:32:28,260
camouflage themselves somewhat in the

704
00:32:36,169 --> 00:32:31,020
Sky by absorbing the the blue light from

705
00:32:41,450 --> 00:32:38,750
oh

706
00:32:44,570 --> 00:32:41,460
what are these lights in the sky and are

707
00:32:47,510 --> 00:32:44,580
they indeed flying saucers we asked U.S

708
00:32:51,230 --> 00:32:47,520
Navy physicist and UFO expert Dr Bruce

709
00:32:53,470 --> 00:32:51,240
Maccabee to examine the footage

710
00:32:56,570 --> 00:32:53,480
basically what you see are lights

711
00:32:57,950 --> 00:32:56,580
related objects doing things way off in

712
00:32:59,510 --> 00:32:57,960
the distance you don't really see any

713
00:33:02,389 --> 00:32:59,520
structured craft

714
00:33:04,789 --> 00:33:02,399
uh some of the video material a very

715
00:33:05,930 --> 00:33:04,799
small amount that I've seen seems to

716
00:33:08,090 --> 00:33:05,940
show lights

717
00:33:09,470 --> 00:33:08,100
doing strain things like hovering and

718
00:33:11,630 --> 00:33:09,480
moving suddenly to another location

719
00:33:13,850 --> 00:33:11,640
maybe and moving slowly and jumping

720
00:33:16,130 --> 00:33:13,860
around a little bit I've concluded that

721
00:33:17,810 --> 00:33:16,140
they aren't ours

722
00:33:19,190 --> 00:33:17,820
that means they belong to somebody else

723
00:33:20,690 --> 00:33:19,200
and you know they're not made here on

724
00:33:22,070 --> 00:33:20,700
Earth basically so they must be coming

725
00:33:23,870 --> 00:33:22,080
from the outside

726
00:33:26,630 --> 00:33:23,880
how they get here

727
00:33:28,490 --> 00:33:26,640
you know who in quotes they belong to I

728
00:33:32,450 --> 00:33:28,500
don't know you know extraterrestrials is

729
00:33:33,950 --> 00:33:32,460
a reasonable proposal all the arguments

730
00:33:35,450 --> 00:33:33,960
that have been put forth that it

731
00:33:37,549 --> 00:33:35,460
couldn't be people from another star

732
00:33:39,710 --> 00:33:37,559
system in the Galaxy or whatever because

733
00:33:41,269 --> 00:33:39,720
they can't get here from there those

734
00:33:43,310 --> 00:33:41,279
arguments are not physically correct

735
00:33:44,630 --> 00:33:43,320
because we could get there given enough

736
00:33:48,110 --> 00:33:44,640
time and money

737
00:33:51,110 --> 00:33:48,120
and desire to do it however it's clear

738
00:33:53,690 --> 00:33:51,120
that uh these other intelligences

739
00:33:54,690 --> 00:33:53,700
whatever they are are far beyond Us in

740
00:34:02,509 --> 00:33:54,700
terms of Technology

741
00:34:07,430 --> 00:34:05,450
now what I'm going to show you is a

742
00:34:08,570 --> 00:34:07,440
computer enhanced version of what you

743
00:34:10,310 --> 00:34:08,580
just saw and we're just going to look at

744
00:34:12,649 --> 00:34:10,320
the one portion where the UFO was

745
00:34:14,149 --> 00:34:12,659
appearing in the left hand corner going

746
00:34:15,589 --> 00:34:14,159
to the right and coming back again

747
00:34:16,790 --> 00:34:15,599
that's all we're going to see we're

748
00:34:19,550 --> 00:34:16,800
going to see it repeated over and over

749
00:34:21,889 --> 00:34:19,560
again this part of the frame has been

750
00:34:23,329 --> 00:34:21,899
chopped out of the full frame so I'll

751
00:34:26,030 --> 00:34:23,339
just let it run and it goes back and

752
00:34:27,409 --> 00:34:26,040
forth and back and forth repeating if we

753
00:34:29,629 --> 00:34:27,419
stop it

754
00:34:32,329 --> 00:34:29,639
now here's the Shadow and here's the UFO

755
00:34:34,669 --> 00:34:32,339
so basically we have a triangle with one

756
00:34:36,530 --> 00:34:34,679
side and two angles that we know and

757
00:34:38,629 --> 00:34:36,540
that result is I can calculate the UFO

758
00:34:40,369 --> 00:34:38,639
position in three dimensional space

759
00:34:42,589 --> 00:34:40,379
right turns out to be about seven

760
00:34:44,750 --> 00:34:42,599
thousand feet away from the camera

761
00:34:48,169 --> 00:34:44,760
so having analyzed it what we seem to

762
00:34:50,570 --> 00:34:48,179
have here Bruce is a genuine UFO yes

763
00:34:53,389 --> 00:34:50,580
there is an object out there 7000 feet

764
00:34:55,790 --> 00:34:53,399
away it wasn't one of ours it's about 30

765
00:34:59,710 --> 00:34:55,800
feet in size

766
00:34:59,720 --> 00:35:18,430
[Music]

767
00:35:24,050 --> 00:35:21,650
the security at Area 51 is formidable

768
00:35:26,510 --> 00:35:24,060
the entire perimeter is surrounded by

769
00:35:28,730 --> 00:35:26,520
motion detectors and cameras armed

770
00:35:31,130 --> 00:35:28,740
guards Patrol in jeeps and helicopter

771
00:35:35,950 --> 00:35:31,140
gunships are deployed to warn off anyone

772
00:35:41,750 --> 00:35:38,750
we headed out deep into the desert over

773
00:35:43,069 --> 00:35:41,760
80 miles outside Las Vegas traveling

774
00:35:45,470 --> 00:35:43,079
down the recently renamed

775
00:35:47,390 --> 00:35:45,480
extraterrestrial Highway we'd come to

776
00:35:49,609 --> 00:35:47,400
see America's most secret base for

777
00:35:51,290 --> 00:35:49,619
ourselves

778
00:35:53,810 --> 00:35:51,300
yeah

779
00:35:56,710 --> 00:35:53,820
approach to the base is a Dusty 10-mile

780
00:35:59,270 --> 00:35:56,720
track called Groom Lake Road

781
00:36:01,550 --> 00:35:59,280
anyone approaching the Border can

782
00:36:03,410 --> 00:36:01,560
clearly be seen for miles and as we've

783
00:36:05,329 --> 00:36:03,420
been warned our every move was being

784
00:36:13,870 --> 00:36:05,339
monitored by the security patrols and

785
00:36:18,650 --> 00:36:16,609
this is as far as you can come to go to

786
00:36:21,170 --> 00:36:18,660
the Groom Lake base it actually says on

787
00:36:23,630 --> 00:36:21,180
these signs that use of deadly force is

788
00:36:24,890 --> 00:36:23,640
authorized there are security patrols

789
00:36:26,750 --> 00:36:24,900
all over these Hills they've been

790
00:36:29,210 --> 00:36:26,760
watching us for the best part of the

791
00:36:31,970 --> 00:36:29,220
last hour the motion sensors security

792
00:36:34,490 --> 00:36:31,980
cameras and if I did walk over this line

793
00:36:36,410 --> 00:36:34,500
I'd be immediately arrested taken to the

794
00:36:38,569 --> 00:36:36,420
guard house and interrogated for

795
00:36:41,450 --> 00:36:38,579
anything up to a week as soon as you

796
00:36:48,530 --> 00:36:41,460
step over the line past this sign you

797
00:36:48,540 --> 00:36:51,170
oh

798
00:36:55,069 --> 00:36:53,510
what's amazing to me Glenn is that the

799
00:36:56,810 --> 00:36:55,079
entrance is so unassuming they've got

800
00:36:59,390 --> 00:36:56,820
this rickety sign saying use of deadly

801
00:37:00,710 --> 00:36:59,400
force authorized but you literally could

802
00:37:02,210 --> 00:37:00,720
if you didn't know what you were doing

803
00:37:04,550 --> 00:37:02,220
you just carry on straight into the base

804
00:37:06,589 --> 00:37:04,560
that's the idea if you don't encounter

805
00:37:08,270 --> 00:37:06,599
any people here if you went into the

806
00:37:10,069 --> 00:37:08,280
guard house that's there about a quarter

807
00:37:11,270 --> 00:37:10,079
mile in you'd be arrested immediately

808
00:37:13,010 --> 00:37:11,280
because you've already passed those

809
00:37:14,510 --> 00:37:13,020
signs they don't want to answer any

810
00:37:16,490 --> 00:37:14,520
questions so they don't put any people

811
00:37:18,050 --> 00:37:16,500
in vulnerable vulnerable positions and

812
00:37:20,030 --> 00:37:18,060
as you come off the highway up there the

813
00:37:21,589 --> 00:37:20,040
Extraterrestrial Highway there's no sign

814
00:37:24,290 --> 00:37:21,599
saying Groom Lake there's nothing is

815
00:37:26,270 --> 00:37:24,300
there no I put up a secret base sign up

816
00:37:28,069 --> 00:37:26,280
there occasionally secret base this way

817
00:37:30,109 --> 00:37:28,079
but it doesn't stay up for very long an

818
00:37:31,910 --> 00:37:30,119
unfortunate in car this is as close as

819
00:37:33,710 --> 00:37:31,920
you can get to to groom Lake isn't it

820
00:37:35,089 --> 00:37:33,720
this is physically as close as you can

821
00:37:37,010 --> 00:37:35,099
get unfortunately you can't see anything

822
00:37:39,170 --> 00:37:37,020
from here at all how far are we actually

823
00:37:42,050 --> 00:37:39,180
away from from the base we're about uh

824
00:37:44,210 --> 00:37:42,060
13 miles north Northeast of the base

825
00:37:46,250 --> 00:37:44,220
right now right and if we continue that

826
00:37:48,829 --> 00:37:46,260
this road if we drove into the base now

827
00:37:50,630 --> 00:37:48,839
past the signs we'd be arrested if you

828
00:37:53,870 --> 00:37:50,640
drove Beyond here 20 feet you'd be

829
00:37:58,730 --> 00:37:56,329
as night fell and determined to see the

830
00:38:01,490 --> 00:37:58,740
secret facility we headed for tickaboo

831
00:38:04,310 --> 00:38:01,500
Peak which overlooks the base 7 000 feet

832
00:38:06,530 --> 00:38:04,320
above the desert at our base camp I

833
00:38:09,349 --> 00:38:06,540
talked to Glenn Campbell who founded the

834
00:38:11,630 --> 00:38:09,359
area 51 Research Center in Rachel and

835
00:38:13,250 --> 00:38:11,640
who produces the Groom Lake Desert Rat

836
00:38:15,470 --> 00:38:13,260
new SATA

837
00:38:17,569 --> 00:38:15,480
he gave up a successful career in

838
00:38:21,349 --> 00:38:17,579
computers to devote his life to

839
00:38:25,849 --> 00:38:23,329
this is a large facility as big as the

840
00:38:28,190 --> 00:38:25,859
state of Connecticut it's got lots of

841
00:38:31,310 --> 00:38:28,200
unknown unexplored areas that you could

842
00:38:33,230 --> 00:38:31,320
store anything you want Area 51 is only

843
00:38:35,750 --> 00:38:33,240
the best known secret base of a vast

844
00:38:37,970 --> 00:38:35,760
complex they could house a lot of

845
00:38:39,829 --> 00:38:37,980
different things we don't know about

846
00:38:42,770 --> 00:38:39,839
but there is actually no fencing is that

847
00:38:45,050 --> 00:38:42,780
yet they know when you cross that line

848
00:38:47,530 --> 00:38:45,060
it's simply marked by orange posts every

849
00:38:50,030 --> 00:38:47,540
few hundred feet

850
00:38:51,770 --> 00:38:50,040
it's easy to wander across this line but

851
00:38:53,750 --> 00:38:51,780
as soon as you do they're going to

852
00:38:55,730 --> 00:38:53,760
detect you and they'll be right on you

853
00:38:57,470 --> 00:38:55,740
this is a very harsh military border

854
00:38:59,270 --> 00:38:57,480
it's not a place for tourists they have

855
00:39:02,030 --> 00:38:59,280
military has never said there are no

856
00:39:04,490 --> 00:39:02,040
UFOs it's never directly denied any of

857
00:39:06,290 --> 00:39:04,500
the area 51 stories it would have been

858
00:39:08,390 --> 00:39:06,300
so simple when these claims came out

859
00:39:10,730 --> 00:39:08,400
these Papoose Lake claims for the

860
00:39:12,770 --> 00:39:10,740
military to Simply say look we have

861
00:39:14,390 --> 00:39:12,780
nothing there they could take a few

862
00:39:16,670 --> 00:39:14,400
reporters to this area and show them

863
00:39:18,410 --> 00:39:16,680
nothing there the military hasn't done

864
00:39:20,210 --> 00:39:18,420
it the military is stonewalled it has

865
00:39:27,250 --> 00:39:20,220
remained silent and that's the most

866
00:39:32,390 --> 00:39:29,750
we needed to reach the summit before

867
00:39:35,510 --> 00:39:32,400
Daybreak in order to see the base lit up

868
00:39:37,550 --> 00:39:35,520
for its nighttime test flights even at

869
00:39:39,130 --> 00:39:37,560
night the Roar of the jet shattered The

870
00:39:44,030 --> 00:39:39,140
Silence of the desert

871
00:39:46,130 --> 00:39:44,040
[Music]

872
00:39:49,010 --> 00:39:46,140
as we reached the summit under a cloak

873
00:39:51,589 --> 00:39:49,020
of Darkness Area 51 could clearly be

874
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:51,599
seen its Runway lights glowing in the

875
00:39:59,569 --> 00:39:52,650
distance

876
00:40:02,089 --> 00:39:59,579
[Music]

877
00:40:05,150 --> 00:40:02,099
after trekking for several hours we

878
00:40:07,970 --> 00:40:05,160
finally set up camp here some 7 000 feet

879
00:40:09,890 --> 00:40:07,980
up and since the crack of dawn we've

880
00:40:12,650 --> 00:40:09,900
been watching non-existent flights

881
00:40:16,190 --> 00:40:12,660
ferrying non-existent Personnel to this

882
00:40:18,349 --> 00:40:16,200
non-existent base tikaboo Peak is the

883
00:40:20,930 --> 00:40:18,359
last safe vantage point where you can

884
00:40:23,450 --> 00:40:20,940
clearly see Dreamland but how long

885
00:40:26,329 --> 00:40:23,460
before this too is claimed by the

886
00:40:26,339 --> 00:40:32,589
foreign

887
00:40:37,730 --> 00:40:35,810
The Groom Lake mystery continues we

888
00:40:39,770 --> 00:40:37,740
followed the Personnel flights out of

889
00:40:42,650 --> 00:40:39,780
the secret base and they've landed here

890
00:40:44,870 --> 00:40:42,660
at McCarran Airport just outside Las

891
00:40:47,390 --> 00:40:44,880
Vegas there are apparently over a dozen

892
00:40:51,530 --> 00:40:47,400
flights every day fering the Personnel

893
00:40:58,510 --> 00:40:51,540
in and out of America's most secret base

894
00:41:04,970 --> 00:41:02,210
I was called at a random time the

895
00:41:08,810 --> 00:41:04,980
operator would say Mr Lazar it's now 4

896
00:41:09,950 --> 00:41:08,820
15 a.m we expect you to be at McCarran

897
00:41:12,109 --> 00:41:09,960
Airport

898
00:41:14,089 --> 00:41:12,119
at 4 45.

899
00:41:15,950 --> 00:41:14,099
your plane will be leaving at such and

900
00:41:18,950 --> 00:41:15,960
such time I

901
00:41:25,550 --> 00:41:18,960
drive there check in board the plane and

902
00:41:32,510 --> 00:41:27,770
as the Groom Lake workers headed off in

903
00:41:35,630 --> 00:41:34,010
who could you point me to at the base

904
00:41:37,250 --> 00:41:35,640
who could give me some information okay

905
00:41:40,490 --> 00:41:37,260
what I want to tell you right now you're

906
00:41:40,500 --> 00:41:43,210
yes

907
00:41:48,410 --> 00:41:45,890
and I'm going to advise you right now to

908
00:41:49,670 --> 00:41:48,420
leave the premises immediately okay is

909
00:41:51,950 --> 00:41:49,680
this coming you were to do that I mean

910
00:41:57,250 --> 00:41:51,960
this is private private you're

911
00:42:03,109 --> 00:42:00,650
no comment you're trespassing okay what

912
00:42:05,270 --> 00:42:03,119
are you trying to get Bud

913
00:42:07,310 --> 00:42:05,280
I

914
00:42:12,849 --> 00:42:07,320
is there anyone you can point us to to

915
00:42:29,690 --> 00:42:15,950
as we were ejected from the airport yet

916
00:42:29,700 --> 00:42:35,569
Michigan

917
00:42:39,829 --> 00:42:37,970
our investigations have revealed that a

918
00:42:42,650 --> 00:42:39,839
private company is working with the US

919
00:42:45,890 --> 00:42:42,660
military at area 51.

920
00:42:48,290 --> 00:42:45,900
we believe this is the company EG and G

921
00:42:50,329 --> 00:42:48,300
special projects it's worked for the

922
00:42:52,130 --> 00:42:50,339
last 50 years on top secret and

923
00:42:54,410 --> 00:42:52,140
sensitive projects with the US

924
00:42:56,150 --> 00:42:54,420
government and it's said to control the

925
00:42:58,790 --> 00:42:56,160
Janet flights that take the workers to

926
00:43:00,530 --> 00:42:58,800
the base as well as all the security and

927
00:43:03,770 --> 00:43:00,540
technical support for the back

928
00:43:05,809 --> 00:43:03,780
engineering of alien spacecraft they did

929
00:43:07,250 --> 00:43:05,819
not work for EG directly I was just

930
00:43:09,589 --> 00:43:07,260
interviewed in one of their facilities

931
00:43:11,690 --> 00:43:09,599
at McCarran airport so a short time

932
00:43:15,109 --> 00:43:11,700
later I was called back in

933
00:43:16,790 --> 00:43:15,119
for this new job at S4 and they had

934
00:43:18,589 --> 00:43:16,800
explained to me that it dealt with some

935
00:43:19,970 --> 00:43:18,599
sort of field propulsion system and I

936
00:43:21,829 --> 00:43:19,980
was just under the assumption that this

937
00:43:24,890 --> 00:43:21,839
is an advanced type of aircraft that's

938
00:43:27,170 --> 00:43:24,900
being worked on and I was excited about

939
00:43:28,849 --> 00:43:27,180
the position we'll definitely the proper

940
00:43:31,010 --> 00:43:28,859
property okay so they've actually cut

941
00:43:33,710 --> 00:43:31,020
the camera does it have any connection

942
00:43:35,690 --> 00:43:33,720
with the groom-like base I'm just I'm

943
00:43:36,829 --> 00:43:35,700
asking you to leave the property does

944
00:43:38,790 --> 00:43:36,839
this company have any connection with

945
00:43:43,990 --> 00:43:38,800
the flights that leave McCarran

946
00:43:47,210 --> 00:43:44,000
[Music]

947
00:43:49,309 --> 00:43:47,220
EG and G has been the central civilian

948
00:43:51,050 --> 00:43:49,319
contractor for Groom Lake basically

949
00:43:53,930 --> 00:43:51,060
since the beginning there are the people

950
00:43:56,510 --> 00:43:53,940
who military folks come and go other

951
00:43:58,250 --> 00:43:56,520
contractors come and go EG has had the

952
00:44:00,109 --> 00:43:58,260
contract since the very beginning so if

953
00:44:02,270 --> 00:44:00,119
anyone were to know what's going on out

954
00:44:04,030 --> 00:44:02,280
there it'd be EG and G they're not

955
00:44:07,370 --> 00:44:04,040
talking

956
00:44:09,290 --> 00:44:07,380
we found EJ to clarify what their role

957
00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:09,300
is at the base but they would only

958
00:44:13,430 --> 00:44:11,280
confirm that the company is working on

959
00:44:16,430 --> 00:44:13,440
several classified Department of Defense

960
00:44:18,710 --> 00:44:16,440
contracts at various remote locations in

961
00:44:20,930 --> 00:44:18,720
Nevada they would not comment on the

962
00:44:23,349 --> 00:44:20,940
exact nature of the work but did state

963
00:44:26,329 --> 00:44:23,359
that it was connected with EMP

964
00:44:30,670 --> 00:44:26,339
electromagnetic propulsion

965
00:44:36,050 --> 00:44:33,770
alien craft are buried deep beneath the

966
00:44:38,569 --> 00:44:36,060
Nevada desert then the power to release

967
00:44:41,089 --> 00:44:38,579
this information to the public lies deep

968
00:44:43,490 --> 00:44:41,099
inside the corridors of Washington

969
00:44:45,589 --> 00:44:43,500
as an intelligence Insider said to me

970
00:44:54,050 --> 00:44:45,599
the problem isn't obtaining the

971
00:44:58,970 --> 00:44:56,450
are these alien craft above Groom Lake

972
00:45:01,190 --> 00:44:58,980
or are they man-made have the U.S

973
00:45:04,190 --> 00:45:01,200
military develop the technology to build

974
00:45:08,270 --> 00:45:04,200
flying discs there's a great deal of

975
00:45:10,790 --> 00:45:08,280
legitimacy to this UFO phenomenon to the

976
00:45:14,150 --> 00:45:10,800
issue of alien intelligence this is

977
00:45:17,510 --> 00:45:14,160
something that's not at all new to the

978
00:45:19,309 --> 00:45:17,520
U.S military there's programs that

979
00:45:20,750 --> 00:45:19,319
they're working on today that are 50

980
00:45:22,329 --> 00:45:20,760
years ahead of anything that you and I

981
00:45:26,270 --> 00:45:22,339
can even conceive of

982
00:45:29,089 --> 00:45:26,280
the Black Project teams are operating

983
00:45:31,370 --> 00:45:29,099
without oversight from official

984
00:45:33,170 --> 00:45:31,380
committees from Congress if you will I

985
00:45:35,870 --> 00:45:33,180
find that exceedingly distressing

986
00:45:39,410 --> 00:45:35,880
frightening the ultimate big brother

987
00:45:40,250 --> 00:45:39,420
scenario everything is being run by the

988
00:45:42,290 --> 00:45:40,260
ETS

989
00:45:44,990 --> 00:45:42,300
if so far beyond Us in terms of

990
00:45:46,670 --> 00:45:45,000
technology that uh I don't think we

991
00:45:48,650 --> 00:45:46,680
would have a chance

992
00:45:50,390 --> 00:45:48,660
I don't think we've yet scratched the

993
00:45:52,069 --> 00:45:50,400
surface

994
00:45:53,329 --> 00:45:52,079
on what's happening out there with

995
00:45:56,750 --> 00:45:53,339
regard

996
00:46:01,790 --> 00:45:59,329
there are a variety activities some of

997
00:46:04,250 --> 00:46:01,800
which are classified throughout what is

998
00:46:07,309 --> 00:46:04,260
often called The Air Force's Nellis

999
00:46:11,089 --> 00:46:07,319
range complex the range is used for the

1000
00:46:13,550 --> 00:46:11,099
testing of Technologies and systems and

1001
00:46:16,910 --> 00:46:13,560
training for operations critical to the

1002
00:46:19,250 --> 00:46:16,920
effectiveness of U.S military forces and

1003
00:46:22,250 --> 00:46:19,260
the security of the United States there

1004
00:46:23,210 --> 00:46:22,260
is operating location near groom dry

1005
00:46:26,150 --> 00:46:23,220
lake

1006
00:46:29,450 --> 00:46:26,160
some specific activities and operations

1007
00:46:32,569 --> 00:46:29,460
conducted on the Nellis range both past

1008
00:46:37,270 --> 00:46:32,579
and present remain classified and cannot

1009
00:46:42,109 --> 00:46:39,890
based on the evidence of former workers

1010
00:46:45,410 --> 00:46:42,119
in the unexplainable lights in the sky

1011
00:46:48,050 --> 00:46:45,420
there is little doubt that area 51 seen

1012
00:46:50,329 --> 00:46:48,060
here in the distance does house flying

1013
00:46:51,829 --> 00:46:50,339
craft that are literally out of this

1014
00:46:54,650 --> 00:46:51,839
world

1015
00:46:56,510 --> 00:46:54,660
if recovered alien spacecraft and bodies

1016
00:47:00,109 --> 00:46:56,520
have been taken to this remote location

1017
00:47:03,109 --> 00:47:00,119
since the 1950s could a secret of this

1018
00:47:07,370 --> 00:47:03,119
size be kept under wraps for so long and

1019
00:47:11,990 --> 00:47:09,349
we're dealing with a cosmic Watergate

1020
00:47:13,430 --> 00:47:12,000
that means that some few people within

1021
00:47:15,589 --> 00:47:13,440
the government's United States Canada

1022
00:47:18,770 --> 00:47:15,599
Britain and undoubtedly other countries

1023
00:47:20,569 --> 00:47:18,780
have known since July 1947 when at least

1024
00:47:22,069 --> 00:47:20,579
two crash flying saucers and several

1025
00:47:25,370 --> 00:47:22,079
alien bodies were recovered in New

1026
00:47:27,349 --> 00:47:25,380
Mexico that indeed some UFOs are

1027
00:47:30,170 --> 00:47:27,359
extraterrestrial spacecraft since

1028
00:47:32,569 --> 00:47:30,180
Project Blue Book closed down in 1969

1029
00:47:35,210 --> 00:47:32,579
there was no official interest in this

1030
00:47:38,089 --> 00:47:35,220
subject that seemed to say the least the

1031
00:47:39,290 --> 00:47:38,099
trifle strange when documents that have

1032
00:47:42,230 --> 00:47:39,300
come out under the Freedom of

1033
00:47:44,630 --> 00:47:42,240
Information Act in America show the

1034
00:47:47,390 --> 00:47:44,640
contrary show that organizations like

1035
00:47:50,270 --> 00:47:47,400
the CIA and the NSA are actually very

1036
00:47:52,130 --> 00:47:50,280
heavily involved in UFO research there's

1037
00:47:54,710 --> 00:47:52,140
a relatively small number of people

1038
00:47:56,569 --> 00:47:54,720
within the intelligence

1039
00:47:59,329 --> 00:47:56,579
military intelligence and scientific and

1040
00:48:02,690 --> 00:47:59,339
Technical intelligence Community who are

1041
00:48:04,930 --> 00:48:02,700
aware of what's going on and an even

1042
00:48:08,630 --> 00:48:04,940
smaller group who are actually

1043
00:48:09,710 --> 00:48:08,640
organizing top secret Research into this

1044
00:48:13,190 --> 00:48:09,720
phenomenon

1045
00:48:14,809 --> 00:48:13,200
whenever we'd have a crash the staff

1046
00:48:18,589 --> 00:48:14,819
people would tell the public information

1047
00:48:20,270 --> 00:48:18,599
officer use a story number 38 in the

1048
00:48:23,450 --> 00:48:20,280
book and he would he would release

1049
00:48:25,670 --> 00:48:23,460
details according to a standard

1050
00:48:27,650 --> 00:48:25,680
release procedure for that kind of a

1051
00:48:30,050 --> 00:48:27,660
story and they never told the truth

1052
00:48:32,390 --> 00:48:30,060
because that was always the classified

1053
00:48:34,970 --> 00:48:32,400
information the government is fighting

1054
00:48:36,829 --> 00:48:34,980
tooth and nail it will not reveal any

1055
00:48:39,410 --> 00:48:36,839
kind of information about that base and

1056
00:48:41,569 --> 00:48:39,420
as a result workers people who helped

1057
00:48:43,609 --> 00:48:41,579
win the Cold War who dedicated their

1058
00:48:44,930 --> 00:48:43,619
lives to these secret programs who kept

1059
00:48:47,630 --> 00:48:44,940
their mouths shut for all these years

1060
00:48:49,849 --> 00:48:47,640
are dying because of exposure to toxic

1061
00:48:51,950 --> 00:48:49,859
materials that the government refuses to

1062
00:48:54,349 --> 00:48:51,960
acknowledge exist out there because they

1063
00:48:57,170 --> 00:48:54,359
refuse to acknowledge the base itself

1064
00:48:58,750 --> 00:48:57,180
if it is already explained there's

1065
00:49:04,150 --> 00:48:58,760
nothing exciting

1066
00:49:10,130 --> 00:49:08,089
presenting Cosmic Journey one of the

1067
00:49:12,349 --> 00:49:10,140
most revealing glimpses of just what the

1068
00:49:15,530 --> 00:49:12,359
Pentagon knew about the existence of

1069
00:49:17,870 --> 00:49:15,540
Crash sources and alien contact came in

1070
00:49:20,990 --> 00:49:17,880
1989 with the development of a

1071
00:49:24,170 --> 00:49:21,000
top-secret project codenamed Cosmic

1072
00:49:27,589 --> 00:49:24,180
Journey Cosmic journey is a new

1073
00:49:30,890 --> 00:49:27,599
experience and live entertainment A New

1074
00:49:34,250 --> 00:49:30,900
Concept and a new dimension this is

1075
00:49:37,370 --> 00:49:34,260
something that no one should miss

1076
00:49:39,530 --> 00:49:37,380
and I guarantee you that millions and

1077
00:49:42,410 --> 00:49:39,540
millions of people throughout the world

1078
00:49:44,750 --> 00:49:42,420
will remember this for the rest of their

1079
00:49:46,849 --> 00:49:44,760
life its aim was to display to the

1080
00:49:49,730 --> 00:49:46,859
public by way of a traveling exhibition

1081
00:49:52,069 --> 00:49:49,740
the crashed craft and preserved alien

1082
00:49:54,589 --> 00:49:52,079
bodies that the government had in its

1083
00:49:56,870 --> 00:49:54,599
possession the Pentagon Enlisted the

1084
00:49:59,809 --> 00:49:56,880
help of Bob exler a NASA Mission

1085
00:50:03,109 --> 00:49:59,819
specialist in robotics who was also a

1086
00:50:06,230 --> 00:50:03,119
respected UFO researcher at a series of

1087
00:50:09,589 --> 00:50:06,240
meetings in Washington in 1989 military

1088
00:50:12,530 --> 00:50:09,599
officials set out their plans to exler

1089
00:50:15,609 --> 00:50:12,540
they were devising a variety of kiosks

1090
00:50:18,250 --> 00:50:15,619
to show the history of the UFO sightings

1091
00:50:21,890 --> 00:50:18,260
UFOs associated with the space program

1092
00:50:25,069 --> 00:50:21,900
and of course aliens Associated commonly

1093
00:50:28,550 --> 00:50:25,079
with the abduction phenomena

1094
00:50:31,490 --> 00:50:28,560
I was shown photographic rendition that

1095
00:50:35,089 --> 00:50:31,500
involved an actual what appeared to be

1096
00:50:38,210 --> 00:50:35,099
some form of an alien creature typical

1097
00:50:39,650 --> 00:50:38,220
to the gray aliens that have been

1098
00:50:41,650 --> 00:50:39,660
referred to popularly in the

1099
00:50:47,270 --> 00:50:41,660
Publications in the press

1100
00:50:50,530 --> 00:50:47,280
the creature was encased in uh sort of a

1101
00:50:53,089 --> 00:50:50,540
glass coffin like structure that

1102
00:50:55,790 --> 00:50:53,099
was being preserved there was a lot of

1103
00:50:58,790 --> 00:50:55,800
apparatus tanks and so forth probably

1104
00:51:01,910 --> 00:50:58,800
some form of a cryogenic tank to

1105
00:51:04,490 --> 00:51:01,920
preserve the the body from decay

1106
00:51:07,490 --> 00:51:04,500
as part of his indoctrination program

1107
00:51:09,309 --> 00:51:07,500
exler was flown out to an offshore Norad

1108
00:51:12,109 --> 00:51:09,319
tracking facility

1109
00:51:14,690 --> 00:51:12,119
traveling in unmarked black helicopters

1110
00:51:16,849 --> 00:51:14,700
they headed out 20 miles off the coast

1111
00:51:18,970 --> 00:51:16,859
of Florida landing on what looked like

1112
00:51:21,710 --> 00:51:18,980
an oil rig

1113
00:51:24,589 --> 00:51:21,720
as we got into this facility we

1114
00:51:26,870 --> 00:51:24,599
descended to an area that I would

1115
00:51:29,690 --> 00:51:26,880
describe as sort of a mezzanine area

1116
00:51:32,829 --> 00:51:29,700
looking out over a control room this was

1117
00:51:35,930 --> 00:51:32,839
obviously a NORAD tracking facility

1118
00:51:40,690 --> 00:51:35,940
there was a huge

1119
00:51:43,490 --> 00:51:40,700
screen it represented an area of the

1120
00:51:46,970 --> 00:51:43,500
southeast quadrant of the United States

1121
00:51:48,829 --> 00:51:46,980
then there were a series of lights that

1122
00:51:51,170 --> 00:51:48,839
were floating along sort of like the top

1123
00:51:53,690 --> 00:51:51,180
of this grid area

1124
00:51:57,109 --> 00:51:53,700
there were five of them in all were

1125
00:51:59,450 --> 00:51:57,119
labeled by the way on the screen as afcs

1126
00:52:02,030 --> 00:51:59,460
and I heard someone make reference to

1127
00:52:05,210 --> 00:52:02,040
Alternative spacecraft the graph went

1128
00:52:09,049 --> 00:52:05,220
down into this grid into this Vortex

1129
00:52:15,490 --> 00:52:09,059
area and then dispersed and no one

1130
00:52:21,890 --> 00:52:19,370
presenting Cosmic journey and

1131
00:52:26,410 --> 00:52:21,900
experiential entertainment concept of

1132
00:52:33,049 --> 00:52:29,990
I've not since been contacted by anyone

1133
00:52:35,150 --> 00:52:33,059
associated with the cosmic Journey uh

1134
00:52:37,730 --> 00:52:35,160
there have been since the publication of

1135
00:52:40,010 --> 00:52:37,740
the book revealing the uh the project

1136
00:52:42,890 --> 00:52:40,020
itself there have been a number of

1137
00:52:45,530 --> 00:52:42,900
plausible denials by uh members

1138
00:52:48,410 --> 00:52:45,540
associated with the project and of

1139
00:52:51,829 --> 00:52:48,420
course categorical denials on anything

1140
00:52:53,900 --> 00:52:51,839
related to the uh more intrinsic alien

1141
00:52:56,030 --> 00:52:53,910
issues

1142
00:52:58,910 --> 00:52:56,040
[Music]

1143
00:53:01,069 --> 00:52:58,920
the only official UFO investigation that

1144
00:53:03,950 --> 00:53:01,079
the United States will admit to was

1145
00:53:07,790 --> 00:53:03,960
Project Blue Book it was set up by

1146
00:53:10,309 --> 00:53:07,800
President Truman in 1952 after a rash of

1147
00:53:12,470 --> 00:53:10,319
UFO sightings over sensitive military

1148
00:53:14,809 --> 00:53:12,480
areas

1149
00:53:17,990 --> 00:53:14,819
was it a genuine attempt to investigate

1150
00:53:20,510 --> 00:53:18,000
UFOs or just a smoke screen to keep an

1151
00:53:23,890 --> 00:53:20,520
increasingly anxious Congress and public

1152
00:53:27,650 --> 00:53:26,569
the public was told everything's under

1153
00:53:30,470 --> 00:53:27,660
control

1154
00:53:32,750 --> 00:53:30,480
sign Grudge blue book that is the

1155
00:53:34,849 --> 00:53:32,760
organization that's doing the UFO thing

1156
00:53:36,589 --> 00:53:34,859
we have access to the finest scientists

1157
00:53:38,930 --> 00:53:36,599
there was a whole bunch of malarkey that

1158
00:53:40,970 --> 00:53:38,940
went along with that

1159
00:53:43,430 --> 00:53:40,980
it was set up as a public information

1160
00:53:46,490 --> 00:53:43,440
office to answer the questions on the

1161
00:53:48,650 --> 00:53:46,500
UFO phenomena for the public and their

1162
00:53:50,329 --> 00:53:48,660
case information their files were sent

1163
00:53:53,210 --> 00:53:50,339
down from upstairs from where my office

1164
00:53:55,309 --> 00:53:53,220
lost my desk was usually cases that

1165
00:53:57,170 --> 00:53:55,319
could be explained away and those were

1166
00:53:59,930 --> 00:53:57,180
used as sample cases in dealing with the

1167
00:54:01,730 --> 00:53:59,940
public the anything classified above

1168
00:54:05,510 --> 00:54:01,740
confidential stayed upstairs and even

1169
00:54:10,569 --> 00:54:05,520
went higher and never got into the came

1170
00:54:14,210 --> 00:54:12,470
I don't think it was a genuine

1171
00:54:19,190 --> 00:54:14,220
investigation in that the really

1172
00:54:20,990 --> 00:54:19,200
sensitive reports were filtered out by a

1173
00:54:22,309 --> 00:54:21,000
more important group than Project Blue

1174
00:54:24,589 --> 00:54:22,319
Book

1175
00:54:26,569 --> 00:54:24,599
we have obtained copies of Project Blue

1176
00:54:29,569 --> 00:54:26,579
Book documents there are literally

1177
00:54:31,609 --> 00:54:29,579
hundreds of reports of UFO sightings and

1178
00:54:34,549 --> 00:54:31,619
eyewitness accounts from both civilians

1179
00:54:36,589 --> 00:54:34,559
and military personnel many that were

1180
00:54:39,170 --> 00:54:36,599
unexplainable

1181
00:54:41,450 --> 00:54:39,180
Project Blue Book is still some 40 years

1182
00:54:43,609 --> 00:54:41,460
later the most important body of

1183
00:54:46,010 --> 00:54:43,619
evidence admitted by the U.S authorities

1184
00:54:51,170 --> 00:54:46,020
that we have made contact with

1185
00:54:56,270 --> 00:54:53,390
the investigation was closed down

1186
00:54:59,329 --> 00:54:56,280
suddenly in 1969.

1187
00:55:01,250 --> 00:54:59,339
no reason was given

1188
00:55:03,470 --> 00:55:01,260
rulebook was the cover organization

1189
00:55:05,690 --> 00:55:03,480
that's the one you heard about as the

1190
00:55:07,670 --> 00:55:05,700
only one ever mentioned and as recently

1191
00:55:08,690 --> 00:55:07,680
as last year an Air Force letter to a

1192
00:55:10,609 --> 00:55:08,700
senator

1193
00:55:12,230 --> 00:55:10,619
said blue book was it and when we closed

1194
00:55:14,870 --> 00:55:12,240
it we got out of the business

1195
00:55:17,450 --> 00:55:14,880
in reality all these other groups

1196
00:55:20,690 --> 00:55:17,460
concerned with monitoring the skies

1197
00:55:23,510 --> 00:55:20,700
we're continuing to look at militarily

1198
00:55:26,210 --> 00:55:23,520
important cases a lifeless guy means

1199
00:55:27,290 --> 00:55:26,220
nothing but if one goes buzzing down the

1200
00:55:29,390 --> 00:55:27,300
runway

1201
00:55:31,609 --> 00:55:29,400
at a Strategic Air Command base where

1202
00:55:33,410 --> 00:55:31,619
nuclear weapons are stored which has

1203
00:55:36,049 --> 00:55:33,420
happened and we've got some records on

1204
00:55:39,290 --> 00:55:36,059
that of concern

1205
00:55:42,290 --> 00:55:39,300
we can say that the recent sightings are

1206
00:55:44,990 --> 00:55:42,300
in no way connected with any secret

1207
00:55:45,760 --> 00:55:45,000
development by any agency of the United

1208
00:55:55,069 --> 00:55:45,770
States

1209
00:55:58,670 --> 00:55:56,630
you can go and look through the Project

1210
00:56:00,069 --> 00:55:58,680
Blue Book records and find numerous

1211
00:56:02,329 --> 00:56:00,079
sightings which have been quote

1212
00:56:03,890 --> 00:56:02,339
explained and you go and look at the

1213
00:56:06,349 --> 00:56:03,900
explanation and you find the explanation

1214
00:56:08,450 --> 00:56:06,359
does not fit the description by the

1215
00:56:09,890 --> 00:56:08,460
witness or Witnesses that's evidence of

1216
00:56:12,290 --> 00:56:09,900
the Air Force was trying to get rid of

1217
00:56:14,150 --> 00:56:12,300
the problem by explaining it away at all

1218
00:56:16,670 --> 00:56:14,160
costs

1219
00:56:18,349 --> 00:56:16,680
the evidence seems to suggest that the

1220
00:56:21,530 --> 00:56:18,359
United States government is still

1221
00:56:25,010 --> 00:56:21,540
investigating UFOs the question is who's

1222
00:56:28,190 --> 00:56:25,020
in charge both the NSA FBI and the CIA

1223
00:56:30,290 --> 00:56:28,200
deny any responsibility because all

1224
00:56:32,950 --> 00:56:30,300
information regarding extraterrestrials

1225
00:56:35,630 --> 00:56:32,960
is handled as SCI sensitive

1226
00:56:37,490 --> 00:56:35,640
compartmentalized information even the

1227
00:56:39,890 --> 00:56:37,500
president of the United States in the

1228
00:56:43,150 --> 00:56:39,900
white house behind me may not know the

1229
00:56:47,510 --> 00:56:45,829
who's in charge is it the president is

1230
00:56:49,490 --> 00:56:47,520
at the Air Force

1231
00:56:52,790 --> 00:56:49,500
I'm convinced that we still have an

1232
00:56:54,670 --> 00:56:52,800
analog with Majestic 12. a group of

1233
00:56:57,290 --> 00:56:54,680
outstanding people

1234
00:56:59,450 --> 00:56:57,300
intelligence Community primarily and

1235
00:57:01,490 --> 00:56:59,460
some technological people

1236
00:57:03,410 --> 00:57:01,500
are running the show presidents come and

1237
00:57:03,770 --> 00:57:03,420
go the intelligence agencies go on

1238
00:57:06,410 --> 00:57:03,780
forever

1239
00:57:08,630 --> 00:57:06,420
[Music]

1240
00:57:10,309 --> 00:57:08,640
to the best of my knowledge there is no

1241
00:57:14,030 --> 00:57:10,319
official

1242
00:57:16,549 --> 00:57:14,040
UFO investigation unit

1243
00:57:18,950 --> 00:57:16,559
operated by the United States government

1244
00:57:20,690 --> 00:57:18,960
however unofficially the records show

1245
00:57:23,510 --> 00:57:20,700
that the defense intelligence agency

1246
00:57:26,870 --> 00:57:23,520
through its defense attache system has a

1247
00:57:29,450 --> 00:57:26,880
remit to report on UFO incidents

1248
00:57:32,450 --> 00:57:29,460
worldwide and that's easily approvable

1249
00:57:34,250 --> 00:57:32,460
despite the fact that the DIA maintains

1250
00:57:38,290 --> 00:57:34,260
they have no interest at all in the

1251
00:57:43,670 --> 00:57:41,329
I tried during my three-year Tour of

1252
00:57:45,829 --> 00:57:43,680
Duty to establish contact with an

1253
00:57:48,410 --> 00:57:45,839
opposite number in the United States I

1254
00:57:50,569 --> 00:57:48,420
made repeated attempts to do that but

1255
00:57:53,150 --> 00:57:50,579
consistently drew a blank I was told

1256
00:57:56,030 --> 00:57:53,160
that since Project Blue Book closed down

1257
00:58:03,349 --> 00:57:56,040
in 1969 there was no official interest

1258
00:58:07,250 --> 00:58:05,990
I didn't work for the US government I

1259
00:58:09,970 --> 00:58:07,260
worked for

1260
00:58:12,349 --> 00:58:09,980
a satellite government of

1261
00:58:14,809 --> 00:58:12,359
this country

1262
00:58:16,430 --> 00:58:14,819
as far as the Senate concerned I think

1263
00:58:19,130 --> 00:58:16,440
there was only one left and that was Bob

1264
00:58:21,650 --> 00:58:19,140
Dole and as far as the presidents are

1265
00:58:24,049 --> 00:58:21,660
concerned the only presidents that I

1266
00:58:27,530 --> 00:58:24,059
feel that I've met at the facilities

1267
00:58:28,690 --> 00:58:27,540
back in the 50s and 60s were Nixon and

1268
00:58:31,430 --> 00:58:28,700
Bush

1269
00:58:34,010 --> 00:58:31,440
we contacted former President George

1270
00:58:36,770 --> 00:58:34,020
Bush to ask him what he knew about the

1271
00:58:39,589 --> 00:58:36,780
existence of recovered alien craft and

1272
00:58:42,770 --> 00:58:39,599
the developments out at Area 51 we

1273
00:58:45,530 --> 00:58:42,780
received a fax response

1274
00:58:48,589 --> 00:58:45,540
unfortunately we are not able to provide

1275
00:58:51,289 --> 00:58:48,599
answers to the questions that you send

1276
00:58:53,690 --> 00:58:51,299
President Bush's policy of long-standing

1277
00:58:56,089 --> 00:58:53,700
is not to comment on or engage in

1278
00:59:01,789 --> 00:58:56,099
speculation about alleged classified

1279
00:59:06,710 --> 00:59:04,250
a close confident of George Bush in a

1280
00:59:09,710 --> 00:59:06,720
man well acquainted with Area 51 was

1281
00:59:12,349 --> 00:59:09,720
Admiral Bob Inman his credentials are

1282
00:59:14,030 --> 00:59:12,359
impeccable he was director of both Naval

1283
00:59:17,329 --> 00:59:14,040
intelligence and the National Security

1284
00:59:19,990 --> 00:59:17,339
Agency as well as deputy director of the

1285
00:59:22,549 --> 00:59:20,000
defense intelligence agency and the CIA

1286
00:59:26,270 --> 00:59:22,559
in a telephone conversation with Bob

1287
00:59:30,130 --> 00:59:26,280
exler in 1989 he referred to recovered

1288
00:59:34,670 --> 00:59:30,140
Vehicles becoming available for research

1289
00:59:38,150 --> 00:59:34,680
do you uh anticipate that any of the

1290
00:59:41,150 --> 00:59:38,160
recovered Vehicles would ever be uh

1291
00:59:42,109 --> 00:59:41,160
become available for uh technological

1292
00:59:44,870 --> 00:59:42,119
research

1293
00:59:46,390 --> 00:59:44,880
outside of the military circles again I

1294
00:59:48,950 --> 00:59:46,400
honestly don't know

1295
00:59:51,650 --> 00:59:48,960
uh 10 years ago the answer would have

1296
00:59:53,450 --> 00:59:51,660
been uh whether his time has evolved

1297
00:59:56,930 --> 00:59:53,460
they're beginning to become more open on

1298
01:00:01,010 --> 00:59:56,940
it is a possibility he knew from an

1299
01:00:03,530 --> 01:00:01,020
official standpoint uh that these

1300
01:00:05,630 --> 01:00:03,540
vehicles these objects existed that they

1301
01:00:08,329 --> 01:00:05,640
were in military U.S military custody

1302
01:00:10,430 --> 01:00:08,339
and that there were scientific projects

1303
01:00:14,990 --> 01:00:10,440
associated with those

1304
01:00:19,549 --> 01:00:15,000
I believe it is the first uh Revelation

1305
01:00:21,470 --> 01:00:19,559
by anyone in a high enough uh level

1306
01:00:23,630 --> 01:00:21,480
capacity within the U.S government

1307
01:00:28,069 --> 01:00:23,640
especially within the intelligence

1308
01:00:30,770 --> 01:00:28,079
Community to in effect acknowledge that

1309
01:00:34,309 --> 01:00:30,780
we are indeed involved that UFOs are

1310
01:00:37,670 --> 01:00:34,319
real that they were developed by

1311
01:00:39,950 --> 01:00:37,680
non-human intelligence and that uh

1312
01:00:41,980 --> 01:00:39,960
somehow or another we have acquired

1313
01:00:44,510 --> 01:00:41,990
possession of that technology

1314
01:00:46,789 --> 01:00:44,520
[Music]

1315
01:00:50,390 --> 01:00:46,799
Inman does not say much there is no

1316
01:00:52,849 --> 01:00:50,400
reference there's no mention of UFOs

1317
01:00:55,490 --> 01:00:52,859
spacecraft anything like that

1318
01:00:58,549 --> 01:00:55,500
the conversation centers on recovered

1319
01:01:02,089 --> 01:00:58,559
Vehicles technology and so forth but

1320
01:01:05,630 --> 01:01:02,099
Admiral Inman was aware of the subject

1321
01:01:08,089 --> 01:01:05,640
matter and we know from his executive

1322
01:01:10,789 --> 01:01:08,099
assistant Tom King that there was to be

1323
01:01:12,289 --> 01:01:10,799
no public discussion of these matters

1324
01:01:14,990 --> 01:01:12,299
the matters that have been discussed

1325
01:01:17,329 --> 01:01:15,000
between exler and Inman because of

1326
01:01:21,349 --> 01:01:17,339
national secrecy laws

1327
01:01:25,450 --> 01:01:21,359
quote him or use his name uh in any

1328
01:01:28,370 --> 01:01:25,460
manner without his prior approval

1329
01:01:30,829 --> 01:01:28,380
Inman retired from government service in

1330
01:01:32,930 --> 01:01:30,839
1982 to become president of science

1331
01:01:35,289 --> 01:01:32,940
applications international corporation

1332
01:01:37,250 --> 01:01:35,299
of San Diego

1333
01:01:39,650 --> 01:01:37,260
interestingly one of the company's

1334
01:01:42,530 --> 01:01:39,660
primary areas of research is into

1335
01:01:44,510 --> 01:01:42,540
gravitational propulsion systems the

1336
01:01:47,210 --> 01:01:44,520
same method of propulsion of flying

1337
01:01:49,490 --> 01:01:47,220
discs that Bob Lazar worked on at Area

1338
01:01:52,130 --> 01:01:49,500
51

1339
01:01:55,549 --> 01:01:52,140
Jane's defense weekly uh the popular

1340
01:02:00,410 --> 01:01:55,559
military defense publication published

1341
01:02:03,109 --> 01:02:00,420
an article about saic and the PostScript

1342
01:02:05,870 --> 01:02:03,119
to the article that anyone who believes

1343
01:02:08,990 --> 01:02:05,880
in the science of anti-gravity to be too

1344
01:02:10,309 --> 01:02:09,000
Arcane too esoteric even for the U.S Air

1345
01:02:14,270 --> 01:02:10,319
Force should consider the electric

1346
01:02:16,250 --> 01:02:14,280
propulsion study undertaken by saic for

1347
01:02:18,230 --> 01:02:16,260
the astronautics laboratory which is now

1348
01:02:20,150 --> 01:02:18,240
part of the Phillips lab and studies

1349
01:02:22,430 --> 01:02:20,160
primary objective was to outline

1350
01:02:24,010 --> 01:02:22,440
physical methods to test theories of

1351
01:02:26,510 --> 01:02:24,020
inductive coupling between

1352
01:02:28,309 --> 01:02:26,520
electromagnetic and gravitational forces

1353
01:02:30,170 --> 01:02:28,319
to determine the feasibility of such

1354
01:02:33,049 --> 01:02:30,180
methods as they apply to space

1355
01:02:35,030 --> 01:02:33,059
propulsion and in simplified terms and

1356
01:02:37,309 --> 01:02:35,040
anti-gravity propulsion system it

1357
01:02:40,069 --> 01:02:37,319
remains for some the ultimate Quantum

1358
01:02:45,530 --> 01:02:43,430
well it's possible one because I saw the

1359
01:02:48,710 --> 01:02:45,540
equipment that would do it and two it is

1360
01:02:49,730 --> 01:02:48,720
theory that would work gravity distorts

1361
01:02:51,770 --> 01:02:49,740
time

1362
01:02:55,490 --> 01:02:51,780
like I said that's not a theory we know

1363
01:02:57,710 --> 01:02:55,500
that to be true and if you're bending

1364
01:03:00,170 --> 01:02:57,720
space and time along with it when you

1365
01:03:03,130 --> 01:03:00,180
wind back up in that place you're there

1366
01:03:07,730 --> 01:03:03,140
between the fix of the clock

1367
01:03:10,190 --> 01:03:07,740
[Music]

1368
01:03:13,069 --> 01:03:10,200
we called Admiral Inman to find out what

1369
01:03:15,049 --> 01:03:13,079
he knows about Area 51 and why his

1370
01:03:17,569 --> 01:03:15,059
company is developing this gravity

1371
01:03:20,750 --> 01:03:17,579
propulsion system let me get right to

1372
01:03:24,289 --> 01:03:20,760
the point that you're after yep I had

1373
01:03:25,430 --> 01:03:24,299
occasion in several different jobs

1374
01:03:27,950 --> 01:03:25,440
to

1375
01:03:29,450 --> 01:03:27,960
ask the question was there any credible

1376
01:03:31,730 --> 01:03:29,460
evidence

1377
01:03:33,410 --> 01:03:31,740
when I was the vice director at the

1378
01:03:35,210 --> 01:03:33,420
defense intelligence agency the National

1379
01:03:38,210 --> 01:03:35,220
Security Agency the Central Intelligence

1380
01:03:42,109 --> 01:03:38,220
Agency I inquired at each of the three

1381
01:03:44,390 --> 01:03:42,119
places uh at different times do you have

1382
01:03:48,230 --> 01:03:44,400
any credible evidence

1383
01:03:53,450 --> 01:03:48,240
that would support the existence of UFO

1384
01:03:55,430 --> 01:03:53,460
or you know and the answer was always no

1385
01:03:56,510 --> 01:03:55,440
Jane's wrote an article in which it

1386
01:03:59,150 --> 01:03:56,520
mentions science applications

1387
01:04:00,829 --> 01:03:59,160
International and it referred to some of

1388
01:04:02,930 --> 01:04:00,839
the development it was working on as the

1389
01:04:05,569 --> 01:04:02,940
ultimate Quantum Leap exotic shall we

1390
01:04:07,430 --> 01:04:05,579
say gravity propulsion systems what

1391
01:04:10,730 --> 01:04:07,440
exactly are those and what are they used

1392
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:13,609
I'm pausing because I want to make sure

1393
01:04:17,210 --> 01:04:16,050
I don't overstate the case right

1394
01:04:20,030 --> 01:04:17,220
[Music]

1395
01:04:23,030 --> 01:04:20,040
we're on a little sensitive ground here

1396
01:04:24,530 --> 01:04:23,040
there have been over the years

1397
01:04:30,710 --> 01:04:24,540
uh

1398
01:04:32,089 --> 01:04:30,720
allegations of activity out in Nevada 15

1399
01:04:34,670 --> 01:04:32,099
years ago

1400
01:04:36,349 --> 01:04:34,680
uh could well have been reflection of

1401
01:04:39,530 --> 01:04:36,359
the Prototype testing of some of the

1402
01:04:42,829 --> 01:04:39,540
stealth Vehicles some are clearly

1403
01:04:45,289 --> 01:04:42,839
scientific phenomena some of it again

1404
01:04:48,049 --> 01:04:45,299
will be so something as simple as

1405
01:04:50,150 --> 01:04:48,059
weather balloons right that break loose

1406
01:04:54,170 --> 01:04:50,160
they get lost and go drifting

1407
01:04:57,410 --> 01:04:54,180
but there probably is some of it that is

1408
01:05:00,230 --> 01:04:57,420
directly related to testing of late 20th

1409
01:05:02,750 --> 01:05:00,240
century early 21st century military

1410
01:05:04,609 --> 01:05:02,760
technology related partly to

1411
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:04,619
reconnaissance in some cases and others

1412
01:05:07,750 --> 01:05:07,490
to you know attack aircraft

1413
01:05:27,049 --> 01:05:07,760
[Applause]

1414
01:05:31,549 --> 01:05:29,750
this is the Nellis Air Force Base one of

1415
01:05:34,370 --> 01:05:31,559
the top military installations in

1416
01:05:36,829 --> 01:05:34,380
America it's split into four main areas

1417
01:05:39,349 --> 01:05:36,839
the tone apart and Nevada test sites

1418
01:05:41,690 --> 01:05:39,359
were America's top secret nuclear tests

1419
01:05:43,910 --> 01:05:41,700
take place as well as the Nellis bombing

1420
01:05:46,490 --> 01:05:43,920
range with the latest Jets and bombers

1421
01:05:49,130 --> 01:05:46,500
are put through their Paces it's also

1422
01:05:51,109 --> 01:05:49,140
home through Area 51 so if there are

1423
01:05:53,270 --> 01:05:51,119
flying sources being tested over the

1424
01:05:56,230 --> 01:05:53,280
desert then the Personnel at Nellis

1425
01:05:59,210 --> 01:05:56,240
definitely know about it

1426
01:06:01,730 --> 01:05:59,220
we were contacted by a former radar

1427
01:06:04,069 --> 01:06:01,740
operator at Nellis who confirmed that

1428
01:06:07,450 --> 01:06:04,079
she had witnessed a classified flying

1429
01:06:11,030 --> 01:06:07,460
disc test out in the test range

1430
01:06:12,770 --> 01:06:11,040
she left the Air Force in 1985 and is

1431
01:06:14,210 --> 01:06:12,780
too frightened to reveal her true

1432
01:06:16,549 --> 01:06:14,220
identity

1433
01:06:20,569 --> 01:06:16,559
the flying this test took place at night

1434
01:06:23,809 --> 01:06:20,579
in the desert a few miles from the base

1435
01:06:26,750 --> 01:06:23,819
I was at that moment standing on the

1436
01:06:30,109 --> 01:06:26,760
deck of the radar van it was night time

1437
01:06:32,170 --> 01:06:30,119
and I was looking up in the sky because

1438
01:06:35,750 --> 01:06:32,180
there were saucers up there

1439
01:06:37,609 --> 01:06:35,760
were 10 to 15 saucers and they were

1440
01:06:40,670 --> 01:06:37,619
glowing orange on the bottom the one

1441
01:06:44,750 --> 01:06:40,680
that was closest to me I could see in

1442
01:06:49,430 --> 01:06:46,910
I was standing with a group of people of

1443
01:06:51,529 --> 01:06:49,440
whom I did not know any of them and they

1444
01:06:53,809 --> 01:06:51,539
did not appear to know each other

1445
01:06:55,130 --> 01:06:53,819
so it seemed like we were all very

1446
01:06:59,450 --> 01:06:55,140
isolated

1447
01:07:04,130 --> 01:07:01,970
it was very frightening because what

1448
01:07:07,549 --> 01:07:04,140
you're what I was seeing

1449
01:07:09,349 --> 01:07:07,559
was definitely something that was very

1450
01:07:12,470 --> 01:07:09,359
highly classified

1451
01:07:15,049 --> 01:07:12,480
and there was a couple of people talking

1452
01:07:17,809 --> 01:07:15,059
inside the radar band who I assumed were

1453
01:07:19,670 --> 01:07:17,819
officers but no one was wearing any rank

1454
01:07:21,190 --> 01:07:19,680
insignia and no one was wearing any name

1455
01:07:24,410 --> 01:07:21,200
tags

1456
01:07:26,230 --> 01:07:24,420
the Maneuvers that they executed were

1457
01:07:29,390 --> 01:07:26,240
very sophisticated

1458
01:07:32,510 --> 01:07:29,400
so my guess is that they were being

1459
01:07:39,670 --> 01:07:32,520
piloted by aliens who knew exactly what

1460
01:07:46,370 --> 01:07:42,470
as part of the test she was taken to

1461
01:07:49,069 --> 01:07:46,380
what she believes was area 51.

1462
01:07:51,890 --> 01:07:49,079
we were taken to a medical facility that

1463
01:07:54,470 --> 01:07:51,900
was very sophisticated

1464
01:07:57,230 --> 01:07:54,480
someone came and took me into an

1465
01:08:00,470 --> 01:07:57,240
examining room and they had me lay down

1466
01:08:03,049 --> 01:08:00,480
on a stainless steel table

1467
01:08:04,970 --> 01:08:03,059
someone came in through the door walked

1468
01:08:07,910 --> 01:08:04,980
around the table up beside the right

1469
01:08:10,849 --> 01:08:07,920
side of my head saying in a real deadpan

1470
01:08:13,130 --> 01:08:10,859
monotone voice stay calm stay calm stay

1471
01:08:15,109 --> 01:08:13,140
calm when he got up by the side of my

1472
01:08:17,450 --> 01:08:15,119
head he had had a hypodermic needle

1473
01:08:19,249 --> 01:08:17,460
hidden in his hand he brought it up and

1474
01:08:21,349 --> 01:08:19,259
it went straight into my the right side

1475
01:08:26,689 --> 01:08:21,359
of my neck and whatever chemical it was

1476
01:08:30,709 --> 01:08:29,390
over 10 years come forward with this

1477
01:08:33,769 --> 01:08:30,719
information

1478
01:08:35,890 --> 01:08:33,779
it has been very difficult to talk about

1479
01:08:38,450 --> 01:08:35,900
this it's almost like

1480
01:08:39,769 --> 01:08:38,460
every time I relate the story it's a

1481
01:08:41,209 --> 01:08:39,779
little easier but when I first started

1482
01:08:43,370 --> 01:08:41,219
talking about it it was like my mouth

1483
01:08:44,749 --> 01:08:43,380
didn't even want to form the words and

1484
01:08:46,329 --> 01:08:44,759
the sound didn't even want to come out

1485
01:08:49,970 --> 01:08:46,339
of my throat

1486
01:08:51,349 --> 01:08:49,980
so I can only guess from that that there

1487
01:08:53,689 --> 01:08:51,359
was a very strong

1488
01:08:55,849 --> 01:08:53,699
suggestion given to me not to talk about

1489
01:08:57,650 --> 01:08:55,859
this not to remember it and if I did

1490
01:08:58,669 --> 01:08:57,660
remember it not to ever talk about it to

1491
01:09:04,559 --> 01:08:58,679
anyone

1492
01:09:13,130 --> 01:09:10,450
[Music]

1493
01:09:15,650 --> 01:09:13,140
as recently as 10 years ago this

1494
01:09:17,809 --> 01:09:15,660
Lockheed a12 which flew out of Groom

1495
01:09:19,610 --> 01:09:17,819
Lake was still one of the U.S Air

1496
01:09:22,610 --> 01:09:19,620
Force's most top secret military

1497
01:09:24,650 --> 01:09:22,620
aircraft if he'd seen it in the skies at

1498
01:09:28,010 --> 01:09:24,660
night you may be forgiven for thinking

1499
01:09:30,169 --> 01:09:28,020
you just seen a UFO so how many of the

1500
01:09:32,570 --> 01:09:30,179
hundreds of thousands of UFO sightings

1501
01:09:34,910 --> 01:09:32,580
every year are nothing more than

1502
01:09:37,729 --> 01:09:34,920
military aircraft and is the great

1503
01:09:42,730 --> 01:09:37,739
secret of Groom Lake just the 21st

1504
01:09:47,570 --> 01:09:45,289
[Music]

1505
01:09:50,269 --> 01:09:47,580
the original test pilot was lose shock

1506
01:09:52,729 --> 01:09:50,279
the first time he saw it I mean he he

1507
01:09:53,930 --> 01:09:52,739
rubbed his eyes he turned around walked

1508
01:09:55,550 --> 01:09:53,940
back out of the production hangers

1509
01:09:56,870 --> 01:09:55,560
Lockheed and walked back in because he

1510
01:09:58,130 --> 01:09:56,880
did not believe his eyes you know

1511
01:10:01,550 --> 01:09:58,140
initially they were going to call it El

1512
01:10:04,310 --> 01:10:01,560
Salvador instead of cygnus uh for the

1513
01:10:06,650 --> 01:10:04,320
simple reason in Spanish that means the

1514
01:10:08,630 --> 01:10:06,660
Savior or Jesus Christ like everybody

1515
01:10:10,729 --> 01:10:08,640
everybody who saw the airplane could not

1516
01:10:12,310 --> 01:10:10,739
believe what they were seeing it was a

1517
01:10:15,950 --> 01:10:12,320
Buck Rogers airplane

1518
01:10:19,130 --> 01:10:15,960
this airplane was built designed almost

1519
01:10:21,530 --> 01:10:19,140
40 years ago 40 years before that the

1520
01:10:25,430 --> 01:10:21,540
hottest thing flying was a seversky p-35

1521
01:10:28,010 --> 01:10:25,440
40 years before that it was a balloon

1522
01:10:29,930 --> 01:10:28,020
so the technology technology has not

1523
01:10:32,649 --> 01:10:29,940
Stood Still so it's a very good

1524
01:10:35,149 --> 01:10:32,659
possibility that we are looking at

1525
01:10:38,209 --> 01:10:35,159
man-made transportation for the 21st

1526
01:10:44,450 --> 01:10:41,390
the United States Air Force Alone

1527
01:10:47,570 --> 01:10:44,460
um in 1997 according to the latest

1528
01:10:50,990 --> 01:10:47,580
budget request will spend more than 11

1529
01:10:55,130 --> 01:10:51,000
billion dollars on Research development

1530
01:10:57,070 --> 01:10:55,140
and production of Secret Weapons Systems

1531
01:10:59,750 --> 01:10:57,080
of one kind or another that's

1532
01:11:02,149 --> 01:10:59,760
considerably more than

1533
01:11:04,189 --> 01:11:02,159
the entire research and production

1534
01:11:06,830 --> 01:11:04,199
expenditure of any other military in the

1535
01:11:13,250 --> 01:11:10,669
I am very distressed that the Black

1536
01:11:16,310 --> 01:11:13,260
Project teams are operating without

1537
01:11:18,410 --> 01:11:16,320
oversight from official committees from

1538
01:11:21,290 --> 01:11:18,420
Congress if you will from public

1539
01:11:22,970 --> 01:11:21,300
oversight with black budgets that no one

1540
01:11:26,030 --> 01:11:22,980
knows where it's going or what it's

1541
01:11:28,970 --> 01:11:26,040
being used for I find that exceedingly

1542
01:11:32,830 --> 01:11:28,980
distressing frightening the ultimate big

1543
01:11:37,790 --> 01:11:35,990
I think the a good part of the reason

1544
01:11:40,189 --> 01:11:37,800
for keeping everything classified is

1545
01:11:42,770 --> 01:11:40,199
because this is an awesome weapon now

1546
01:11:44,270 --> 01:11:42,780
you think the amount of energy that this

1547
01:11:46,189 --> 01:11:44,280
system can put out

1548
01:11:48,890 --> 01:11:46,199
weapon system if you want to look at it

1549
01:11:51,229 --> 01:11:48,900
as that and it obviously has some weapon

1550
01:11:52,729 --> 01:11:51,239
potential just think about being able to

1551
01:11:54,790 --> 01:11:52,739
deploy something like that virtually

1552
01:11:56,870 --> 01:11:54,800
instantaneously anywhere in the world

1553
01:11:58,430 --> 01:11:56,880
you know you have a conflict in the

1554
01:11:59,990 --> 01:11:58,440
Middle East how long does it take you to

1555
01:12:01,790 --> 01:12:00,000
get an aircraft carry over there well it

1556
01:12:04,610 --> 01:12:01,800
takes a long time here's an awesome

1557
01:12:07,430 --> 01:12:04,620
weapon power that flies that can move

1558
01:12:09,290 --> 01:12:07,440
somewhere virtually instantaneously and

1559
01:12:10,870 --> 01:12:09,300
you know pound an enemy virtually into

1560
01:12:13,130 --> 01:12:10,880
dust

1561
01:12:15,229 --> 01:12:13,140
yeah that's something to keep awfully

1562
01:12:16,669 --> 01:12:15,239
Secret at it you know at any price

1563
01:12:21,830 --> 01:12:16,679
because that's something you can almost

1564
01:12:28,189 --> 01:12:24,770
I'm convinced that human beings are

1565
01:12:32,030 --> 01:12:28,199
building disc shaped craft in fact it

1566
01:12:34,189 --> 01:12:32,040
was reported that by 1960 the U.S

1567
01:12:36,950 --> 01:12:34,199
military had already developed a disc

1568
01:12:39,709 --> 01:12:36,960
that could operate silently

1569
01:12:42,530 --> 01:12:39,719
man-made flying sources are indeed real

1570
01:12:46,010 --> 01:12:42,540
this is the Avro car which was launched

1571
01:12:48,830 --> 01:12:46,020
in total secrecy in 1955 less than 10

1572
01:12:52,189 --> 01:12:48,840
years after alien sources were allegedly

1573
01:12:55,669 --> 01:12:52,199
recovered from Roswell New Mexico a CIA

1574
01:12:58,070 --> 01:12:55,679
memorandum in 1955 stated that the Avro

1575
01:13:01,669 --> 01:12:58,080
car was based on Research developed by

1576
01:13:03,649 --> 01:13:01,679
German scientists in World War II we

1577
01:13:06,470 --> 01:13:03,659
have obtained the only film ever taken

1578
01:13:10,370 --> 01:13:06,480
of the first top secret test flights in

1579
01:13:12,770 --> 01:13:10,380
Canada in 1960. why was the military

1580
01:13:15,649 --> 01:13:12,780
test flying saucer-shaped flying craft

1581
01:13:18,410 --> 01:13:15,659
in the 1950s when Project Blue Book

1582
01:13:20,689 --> 01:13:18,420
denied they existed was it a cover to

1583
01:13:23,149 --> 01:13:20,699
hide the real alien sources being tested

1584
01:13:25,910 --> 01:13:23,159
out at area 51.

1585
01:13:27,890 --> 01:13:25,920
like Project Blue Book the Avro car was

1586
01:13:30,590 --> 01:13:27,900
scrapped suddenly in the late 60s after

1587
01:13:32,020 --> 01:13:30,600
millions of dollars were spent no reason

1588
01:13:34,630 --> 01:13:32,030
was given

1589
01:13:37,669 --> 01:13:34,640
[Music]

1590
01:13:40,310 --> 01:13:37,679
more recently the Lockheed Skunk Works

1591
01:13:42,770 --> 01:13:40,320
in Palmdale California unveiled project

1592
01:13:44,630 --> 01:13:42,780
Dark Star an unmanned aerial

1593
01:13:47,810 --> 01:13:44,640
reconnaissance vehicle

1594
01:13:50,630 --> 01:13:47,820
seen in hangars or in the skies it is a

1595
01:13:52,490 --> 01:13:50,640
UFO I think it's time that you get a

1596
01:13:54,649 --> 01:13:52,500
look at the newest Star in the world of

1597
01:13:59,149 --> 01:13:54,659
Airborne reconnaissance ladies and

1598
01:13:59,159 --> 01:14:06,770
foreign

1599
01:14:12,709 --> 01:14:08,990
Dark Star is a very unusual looking

1600
01:14:15,050 --> 01:14:12,719
aircraft it has a saucer-shaped body and

1601
01:14:17,450 --> 01:14:15,060
a pair of very long slander Wings

1602
01:14:20,330 --> 01:14:17,460
attached to the back like many stealth

1603
01:14:22,550 --> 01:14:20,340
aircraft including the B2 its appearance

1604
01:14:25,310 --> 01:14:22,560
varies drastically according to what

1605
01:14:27,770 --> 01:14:25,320
angle he's here from if for example you

1606
01:14:29,689 --> 01:14:27,780
see the aircraft kind of edgeways on you

1607
01:14:33,050 --> 01:14:29,699
might well think that this was something

1608
01:14:36,530 --> 01:14:33,060
totally foreign totally unlike any

1609
01:14:38,209 --> 01:14:36,540
conventional aircraft and certainly much

1610
01:14:40,910 --> 01:14:38,219
more like what people have described as

1611
01:14:42,950 --> 01:14:40,920
flying sauces I think it's quite

1612
01:14:44,689 --> 01:14:42,960
possible that some of the things that

1613
01:14:47,770 --> 01:14:44,699
are being developed in the United States

1614
01:14:51,110 --> 01:14:47,780
today are of such a revolutionary nature

1615
01:14:52,790 --> 01:14:51,120
and still very secret that when they are

1616
01:14:54,169 --> 01:14:52,800
seen from time to time as things

1617
01:14:56,990 --> 01:14:54,179
inevitably do get seen when they're

1618
01:14:59,450 --> 01:14:57,000
tested that they could be mistaken for

1619
01:15:01,450 --> 01:14:59,460
what people think are are UFOs

1620
01:15:04,130 --> 01:15:01,460
[Music]

1621
01:15:06,110 --> 01:15:04,140
at any given time of course the

1622
01:15:08,090 --> 01:15:06,120
technology that we have is five or ten

1623
01:15:10,669 --> 01:15:08,100
years more advanced than the technology

1624
01:15:13,430 --> 01:15:10,679
that is on public display but these

1625
01:15:15,350 --> 01:15:13,440
sorts of things do not fly over the

1626
01:15:18,770 --> 01:15:15,360
heads of bewildered members of the

1627
01:15:21,350 --> 01:15:18,780
public they fly exclusively in very

1628
01:15:23,090 --> 01:15:21,360
clearly defined ranges and danger areas

1629
01:15:27,169 --> 01:15:23,100
so the sorts of things that have been

1630
01:15:30,950 --> 01:15:27,179
reported as UFOs will not be ours

1631
01:15:33,590 --> 01:15:30,960
in September of 1947 the Air Force wrote

1632
01:15:36,110 --> 01:15:33,600
to J Edgar Hoover a letter saying we

1633
01:15:37,430 --> 01:15:36,120
checked all of our research projects Etc

1634
01:15:38,689 --> 01:15:37,440
you know this would be not just the Air

1635
01:15:39,830 --> 01:15:38,699
Force but the Navy and the Army

1636
01:15:41,390 --> 01:15:39,840
everybody

1637
01:15:43,669 --> 01:15:41,400
and we have nothing

1638
01:15:44,810 --> 01:15:43,679
that could create these flying disc

1639
01:15:47,090 --> 01:15:44,820
sightings

1640
01:15:48,410 --> 01:15:47,100
big UFO convention came to an end in Las

1641
01:15:49,790 --> 01:15:48,420
Vegas last night and afterwards

1642
01:15:52,729 --> 01:15:49,800
naturally some of the members went out

1643
01:15:54,290 --> 01:15:52,739
in the desert to search for UFOs a news

1644
01:15:55,790 --> 01:15:54,300
crew went along too and sure enough it

1645
01:15:58,130 --> 01:15:55,800
wasn't long before a mysterious

1646
01:15:59,930 --> 01:15:58,140
unidentified object appeared not too

1647
01:16:01,669 --> 01:15:59,940
surprising somewhere up there you see it

1648
01:16:04,010 --> 01:16:01,679
because this patch of desert is right

1649
01:16:05,750 --> 01:16:04,020
near a military test site this looked

1650
01:16:10,790 --> 01:16:05,760
like no aircraft lights that any of

1651
01:16:14,630 --> 01:16:12,830
was it a bird was it a plane was it the

1652
01:16:16,550 --> 01:16:14,640
Aurora the secret plane we don't know

1653
01:16:19,690 --> 01:16:16,560
more to come I'm sure on the Air Force

1654
01:16:21,320 --> 01:16:19,700
it's not saying anything as usual

1655
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:21,330
[Applause]

1656
01:16:39,709 --> 01:16:36,229
[Music]

1657
01:16:41,990 --> 01:16:39,719
if UFOs are man-made craft how do you

1658
01:16:45,590 --> 01:16:42,000
explain the tens of thousands of cases

1659
01:16:48,770 --> 01:16:45,600
of reported alien abductions every year

1660
01:16:51,470 --> 01:16:48,780
in 1975 seven loggers were heading home

1661
01:16:54,229 --> 01:16:51,480
after a day in the forest to Show Low

1662
01:16:56,689 --> 01:16:54,239
Arizona and came across a bright light

1663
01:16:58,729 --> 01:16:56,699
in the trees in the distance driving

1664
01:17:00,770 --> 01:16:58,739
closer they could clearly make out the

1665
01:17:03,350 --> 01:17:00,780
shape of a flying saucer which was

1666
01:17:05,750 --> 01:17:03,360
lighting up the forest around them Mike

1667
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:05,760
Rogers and Travis Walton were in the

1668
01:17:15,950 --> 01:17:12,290
[Music]

1669
01:17:17,990 --> 01:17:15,960
so I had lighted spots on it and and was

1670
01:17:19,390 --> 01:17:18,000
basically metallic had a metallic

1671
01:17:22,070 --> 01:17:19,400
framework

1672
01:17:23,950 --> 01:17:22,080
my first feeling was that it looked

1673
01:17:26,630 --> 01:17:23,960
rather beautiful

1674
01:17:28,310 --> 01:17:26,640
but at that time it wasn't making any

1675
01:17:32,370 --> 01:17:28,320
noise and it wasn't moving it was just

1676
01:17:36,290 --> 01:17:32,380
quietly perched there in the air

1677
01:17:36,300 --> 01:17:39,130
God

1678
01:17:44,570 --> 01:17:41,689
when it started to move the sound got

1679
01:17:46,250 --> 01:17:44,580
real powerful and I I jumped for cover

1680
01:17:47,450 --> 01:17:46,260
and I got down behind this log and the

1681
01:17:48,709 --> 01:17:47,460
guys were going to get away from there

1682
01:17:51,530 --> 01:17:48,719
and they're swearing and everything and

1683
01:17:53,149 --> 01:17:51,540
I was you know pretty scared myself and

1684
01:17:56,209 --> 01:17:53,159
I made up my mind to make a run for it

1685
01:17:58,970 --> 01:17:56,219
and when I raised up Wham something hit

1686
01:18:02,930 --> 01:18:01,130
a beam of energy a bolts of lightning

1687
01:18:04,490 --> 01:18:02,940
but it wasn't like lightning it was like

1688
01:18:06,110 --> 01:18:04,500
straight sided like I'd like a

1689
01:18:07,790 --> 01:18:06,120
deliberate beam of energy but it was so

1690
01:18:09,470 --> 01:18:07,800
powerful it created like an explosion

1691
01:18:11,810 --> 01:18:09,480
that lifted him off his feet and blamed

1692
01:18:15,169 --> 01:18:11,820
backwards and here's Travis flying back

1693
01:18:16,550 --> 01:18:15,179
through the air uh just he landed some

1694
01:18:18,229 --> 01:18:16,560
distance from where he'd been standing

1695
01:18:19,430 --> 01:18:18,239
landed flat on his back and as he's

1696
01:18:21,770 --> 01:18:19,440
going through the air his arms

1697
01:18:23,510 --> 01:18:21,780
outstretched he he looked lifeless at

1698
01:18:25,490 --> 01:18:23,520
the time like the concussion of it had

1699
01:18:29,470 --> 01:18:25,500
already killed him or knocked him out or

1700
01:18:29,480 --> 01:18:35,330
thank you

1701
01:18:38,510 --> 01:18:37,189
well now I could hear the sounds of

1702
01:18:41,510 --> 01:18:38,520
movement around me

1703
01:18:43,550 --> 01:18:41,520
and I uh I had trouble focusing my eyes

1704
01:18:45,649 --> 01:18:43,560
at first I saw there was a light above

1705
01:18:48,110 --> 01:18:45,659
me and the ceiling was very close I

1706
01:18:50,169 --> 01:18:48,120
could feel I was laying on top of some

1707
01:18:52,189 --> 01:18:50,179
hard raised surface

1708
01:18:55,130 --> 01:18:52,199
but when I finally got where I could

1709
01:18:57,229 --> 01:18:55,140
focus my eyes and I and I saw these

1710
01:18:59,209 --> 01:18:57,239
creatures standing over me I just

1711
01:19:04,070 --> 01:18:59,219
flipped out I just instantly became

1712
01:19:08,990 --> 01:19:06,050
oh

1713
01:19:11,090 --> 01:19:09,000
that was definitely not in the hospital

1714
01:19:12,530 --> 01:19:11,100
and can you describe what these aliens

1715
01:19:16,189 --> 01:19:12,540
look like

1716
01:19:19,310 --> 01:19:16,199
well they were basically humanoid you

1717
01:19:23,209 --> 01:19:19,320
know two arms two legs like that but um

1718
01:19:26,870 --> 01:19:23,219
they um they had very large heads

1719
01:19:28,189 --> 01:19:26,880
um hair no hair huge eyes

1720
01:19:32,090 --> 01:19:28,199
sort of a

1721
01:19:35,390 --> 01:19:32,100
pale uh grayish white skin

1722
01:19:38,330 --> 01:19:35,400
and they were wearing uh coveralls of

1723
01:19:40,370 --> 01:19:38,340
kind of a brownish coverall after

1724
01:19:43,010 --> 01:19:40,380
spending what Travis remembers to Be an

1725
01:19:45,410 --> 01:19:43,020
Arrow to inside the craft the aliens put

1726
01:19:47,209 --> 01:19:45,420
a mask over his face and he awoke in the

1727
01:19:52,310 --> 01:19:47,219
middle of the road with the craft above

1728
01:19:56,930 --> 01:19:55,550
what do you say to people who say you

1729
01:19:59,209 --> 01:19:56,940
know these seven loggers in the woods

1730
01:20:03,050 --> 01:19:59,219
just made this whole story up

1731
01:20:04,610 --> 01:20:03,060
I mean you know seven people are seeing

1732
01:20:06,890 --> 01:20:04,620
the same thing they stick by their

1733
01:20:08,750 --> 01:20:06,900
stories for for over two decades you

1734
01:20:10,669 --> 01:20:08,760
know ever all of us have taken polygraph

1735
01:20:16,750 --> 01:20:10,679
tests every Theory the Skeptics come up

1736
01:20:22,310 --> 01:20:19,790
well I spent a day with Travis and Mike

1737
01:20:26,149 --> 01:20:24,470
he passed the lie detector test their

1738
01:20:28,430 --> 01:20:26,159
story is consistent there were five

1739
01:20:31,910 --> 01:20:28,440
other people there after all who saw

1740
01:20:34,550 --> 01:20:31,920
part of these events unfold it also

1741
01:20:37,310 --> 01:20:34,560
passed the lie detector test uh his

1742
01:20:39,410 --> 01:20:37,320
story is consistent it's never changed

1743
01:20:41,689 --> 01:20:39,420
in a court of law that would make the

1744
01:20:44,090 --> 01:20:41,699
case

1745
01:20:54,370 --> 01:20:44,100
I found his story of profoundly

1746
01:21:01,310 --> 01:20:58,370
[Music]

1747
01:21:04,430 --> 01:21:01,320
this is The Saratov Air Base 200 miles

1748
01:21:07,430 --> 01:21:04,440
outside Moscow Behind These barbed wire

1749
01:21:10,610 --> 01:21:07,440
fences is the Russian equivalent to area

1750
01:21:12,590 --> 01:21:10,620
51. if you thought only the U.S

1751
01:21:15,229 --> 01:21:12,600
government had flying disc technology

1752
01:21:16,790 --> 01:21:15,239
then you'd be wrong the Russians have

1753
01:21:19,370 --> 01:21:16,800
been working on a secret project

1754
01:21:22,729 --> 01:21:19,380
codename tari Elka since the second

1755
01:21:25,430 --> 01:21:22,739
world war security here is unprecedented

1756
01:21:29,229 --> 01:21:25,440
and this perimeter fence is as close as

1757
01:21:32,270 --> 01:21:29,239
we've been able to get to the base

1758
01:21:34,790 --> 01:21:32,280
we did secure some footage of the flying

1759
01:21:36,950 --> 01:21:34,800
disc in the hangar the code name for the

1760
01:21:40,850 --> 01:21:36,960
project is a keep and it has been

1761
01:21:45,229 --> 01:21:43,130
we asked the scientist in charge of the

1762
01:21:47,810 --> 01:21:45,239
project what propulsion system the craft

1763
01:21:52,130 --> 01:21:47,820
uses but he would not divulge what he

1764
01:21:56,270 --> 01:21:54,770
what is clear is that tari Elka is aimed

1765
01:21:58,910 --> 01:21:56,280
at the commercial Market not the

1766
01:22:01,130 --> 01:21:58,920
military the Russian Engineers here at

1767
01:22:07,310 --> 01:22:01,140
Saratov see this as an alternative to

1768
01:22:11,930 --> 01:22:08,930
where the production and design

1769
01:22:14,390 --> 01:22:11,940
expertise came to build the terrioca no

1770
01:22:16,729 --> 01:22:14,400
one is saying but surely it's more than

1771
01:22:20,209 --> 01:22:16,739
just a coincidence that the base here at

1772
01:22:23,630 --> 01:22:20,219
Saratov is so similar to Area 51 both in

1773
01:22:26,270 --> 01:22:23,640
location and security and as in the U.S

1774
01:22:29,390 --> 01:22:26,280
the tari Elka project was started in the

1775
01:22:32,570 --> 01:22:29,400
1940s just after the alleged saucer

1776
01:22:34,130 --> 01:22:32,580
crash in Roswell New Mexico I'm pretty

1777
01:22:36,410 --> 01:22:34,140
sure that the Russians have those crafts

1778
01:22:38,330 --> 01:22:36,420
we were told directly by a leading

1779
01:22:40,250 --> 01:22:38,340
Russian scientist who had worked

1780
01:22:43,130 --> 01:22:40,260
Hands-On worked on these things that

1781
01:22:45,530 --> 01:22:43,140
both the United States and the USSR had

1782
01:22:47,570 --> 01:22:45,540
had acquired information from captured

1783
01:22:49,910 --> 01:22:47,580
Nazi scientists and had built Craft Like

1784
01:22:51,709 --> 01:22:49,920
These they knew that we had them we knew

1785
01:22:53,689 --> 01:22:51,719
that they had them

1786
01:22:56,510 --> 01:22:53,699
the story I got from the Russians before

1787
01:22:57,649 --> 01:22:56,520
is that these same scientists who felt

1788
01:23:00,770 --> 01:22:57,659
that there was an alien connection

1789
01:23:02,330 --> 01:23:00,780
Stalin himself I was told believed in

1790
01:23:04,490 --> 01:23:02,340
this alien connection that these things

1791
01:23:06,169 --> 01:23:04,500
came from somewhere else now I think

1792
01:23:07,669 --> 01:23:06,179
because of the political changes and the

1793
01:23:10,370 --> 01:23:07,679
political uncertainties in that country

1794
01:23:12,169 --> 01:23:10,380
even these scientists are are backing

1795
01:23:14,450 --> 01:23:12,179
off from that position well we're not

1796
01:23:15,649 --> 01:23:14,460
quite sure if these are alien anymore uh

1797
01:23:17,570 --> 01:23:15,659
they're they're not certain that the

1798
01:23:20,450 --> 01:23:17,580
Kremlin needs any kind of a UFO expose

1799
01:23:22,790 --> 01:23:20,460
right now the tarioka will be on display

1800
01:23:25,189 --> 01:23:22,800
at trade shows around the world in a few

1801
01:23:26,689 --> 01:23:25,199
years time sold off to the highest

1802
01:23:29,209 --> 01:23:26,699
bidder

1803
01:23:31,550 --> 01:23:29,219
the fact that mankind may be transported

1804
01:23:34,310 --> 01:23:31,560
in flying discs in the early part of the

1805
01:23:43,010 --> 01:23:34,320
21st century is a startling transition

1806
01:23:47,870 --> 01:23:45,709
have alien sources crashed on Earth and

1807
01:23:50,689 --> 01:23:47,880
have we back engineered these crafts to

1808
01:23:53,930 --> 01:23:50,699
develop our own 21st century flying

1809
01:23:57,590 --> 01:23:53,940
discs the answer however improbable is

1810
01:23:59,510 --> 01:23:57,600
yes Area 51 does exist and we have

1811
01:24:01,850 --> 01:23:59,520
eyewitness accounts from at least two

1812
01:24:05,030 --> 01:24:01,860
former workers at the base who confirm

1813
01:24:07,490 --> 01:24:05,040
the existence of alien spacecraft the

1814
01:24:09,830 --> 01:24:07,500
truth seems to be out there but will

1815
01:24:11,750 --> 01:24:09,840
they ever admit it

1816
01:24:14,290 --> 01:24:11,760
it's likely to be a very long time

1817
01:24:16,910 --> 01:24:14,300
before we discover

1818
01:24:19,370 --> 01:24:16,920
what is actually being done out of Groom

1819
01:24:22,209 --> 01:24:19,380
Lake now if you look at the intelligence

1820
01:24:26,270 --> 01:24:22,219
Community particularly

1821
01:24:29,270 --> 01:24:26,280
they seem to wait anything from 15 to 20

1822
01:24:31,729 --> 01:24:29,280
years or more after something has been

1823
01:24:33,890 --> 01:24:31,739
retired before they acknowledge its

1824
01:24:35,810 --> 01:24:33,900
existence therefore if things are

1825
01:24:38,990 --> 01:24:35,820
operational now we may not see them for

1826
01:24:41,810 --> 01:24:39,000
another 30 40 years what also happens at

1827
01:24:45,229 --> 01:24:41,820
that point is that things remain secret

1828
01:24:47,330 --> 01:24:45,239
so long that the people who originally

1829
01:24:50,390 --> 01:24:47,340
decided they should be classified are

1830
01:24:53,510 --> 01:24:50,400
retired or quite possibly then

1831
01:24:55,490 --> 01:24:53,520
and it becomes almost impossible to

1832
01:24:58,310 --> 01:24:55,500
declassify a program at that point

1833
01:25:01,010 --> 01:24:58,320
because nobody knows quite why the

1834
01:25:04,729 --> 01:25:01,020
secret is being protected the Air Force

1835
01:25:08,209 --> 01:25:04,739
Headquarters files up through 1955.

1836
01:25:10,669 --> 01:25:08,219
9 800 feet of material that's a thousand

1837
01:25:13,070 --> 01:25:10,679
four-door filing cabinets when I went to

1838
01:25:15,350 --> 01:25:13,080
ask for stuff out of these files only 10

1839
01:25:17,870 --> 01:25:15,360
of the boxes I was interested in had

1840
01:25:19,729 --> 01:25:17,880
been classification review and in those

1841
01:25:21,050 --> 01:25:19,739
boxes there were withdrawal sheets all

1842
01:25:23,870 --> 01:25:21,060
over the place

1843
01:25:25,729 --> 01:25:23,880
so Secrets can be kept they are being

1844
01:25:28,010 --> 01:25:25,739
kept one way that they're being kept as

1845
01:25:29,570 --> 01:25:28,020
the naivetea the people who think now if

1846
01:25:35,110 --> 01:25:29,580
this was going on I would know about it

1847
01:25:39,890 --> 01:25:38,030
they have to know that it has to come

1848
01:25:43,010 --> 01:25:39,900
out it has to be part of their program

1849
01:25:45,050 --> 01:25:43,020
that it will come out we just don't know

1850
01:25:47,270 --> 01:25:45,060
what the agenda what the time frame is I

1851
01:25:49,669 --> 01:25:47,280
think it's very reasonable let's say if

1852
01:25:51,770 --> 01:25:49,679
contact were made in the 1950s I think

1853
01:25:54,649 --> 01:25:51,780
it's very reasonable of the government

1854
01:25:57,470 --> 01:25:54,659
to say let's keep it secret for 40 or 50

1855
01:25:59,510 --> 01:25:57,480
or 60 years so we can study it so we can

1856
01:26:01,129 --> 01:25:59,520
reproduce the craft so we can understand

1857
01:26:03,590 --> 01:26:01,139
what it is we're dealing with and

1858
01:26:06,410 --> 01:26:03,600
release it to the society slowly perhaps

1859
01:26:08,390 --> 01:26:06,420
that's what they're doing now

1860
01:26:10,790 --> 01:26:08,400
do you think the secret will be out in a

1861
01:26:12,709 --> 01:26:10,800
few years time

1862
01:26:16,010 --> 01:26:12,719
I'm saying that Gus I've got permission

1863
01:26:22,550 --> 01:26:16,020
I'll turn my papers over to you in 2002.

1864
01:26:26,830 --> 01:26:24,410
my impression that eventually there will

1865
01:26:31,189 --> 01:26:26,840
be a weight of evidence

1866
01:26:33,350 --> 01:26:31,199
so massive that our society will admit

1867
01:26:34,910 --> 01:26:33,360
that they are here and at which point

1868
01:26:36,350 --> 01:26:34,920
the government will have to admit that

1869
01:26:38,270 --> 01:26:36,360
they've known a lot more than they've

1870
01:26:40,010 --> 01:26:38,280
said all along and this isn't just the

1871
01:26:43,189 --> 01:26:40,020
US government you know this is virtually

1872
01:26:49,610 --> 01:26:47,209
in 1979 the seti program was set up to

1873
01:26:52,550 --> 01:26:49,620
search the far reaches of space for

1874
01:26:55,550 --> 01:26:52,560
intelligent life it would seem that we

1875
01:26:57,830 --> 01:26:55,560
now have an answer the real reason for

1876
01:27:00,410 --> 01:26:57,840
the cover-up is likely to be far more

1877
01:27:01,910 --> 01:27:00,420
Sinister than mere secret technology

1878
01:27:05,450 --> 01:27:01,920
[Music]

1879
01:27:07,910 --> 01:27:05,460
we have to consider that the aliens

1880
01:27:09,229 --> 01:27:07,920
themselves may be controlling

1881
01:27:11,510 --> 01:27:09,239
the cover-up

1882
01:27:14,390 --> 01:27:11,520
especially if they don't really want us

1883
01:27:16,129 --> 01:27:14,400
to know what they're doing here

1884
01:27:18,590 --> 01:27:16,139
even if there is some communication

1885
01:27:21,890 --> 01:27:18,600
between the government and them

1886
01:27:24,610 --> 01:27:21,900
everything is being run by the ETS

1887
01:27:27,050 --> 01:27:24,620
so far beyond Us in terms of technology

1888
01:27:28,250 --> 01:27:27,060
that uh I don't think we would have a

1889
01:27:32,390 --> 01:27:28,260
chance

1890
01:27:34,430 --> 01:27:32,400
[Music]

1891
01:27:36,830 --> 01:27:34,440
they the officials in charge of this

1892
01:27:38,149 --> 01:27:36,840
information are going to look rather

1893
01:27:39,950 --> 01:27:38,159
impotent

1894
01:27:42,290 --> 01:27:39,960
were it known that there are

1895
01:27:44,650 --> 01:27:42,300
extraterrestrials invading our airspace

1896
01:27:53,590 --> 01:27:44,660
against whom we have inadequate defense

1897
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:57,950
thank you

1898
01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:03,410
foreign

1899
01:28:08,870 --> 01:28:05,930
we have investigated Dreamland for over

1900
01:28:11,870 --> 01:28:08,880
a year whilst we didn't see any flying

1901
01:28:13,790 --> 01:28:11,880
discs or alien bodies we did see lights

1902
01:28:17,090 --> 01:28:13,800
in the sky which could not have been

1903
01:28:19,669 --> 01:28:17,100
airplanes military or otherwise

1904
01:28:22,010 --> 01:28:19,679
we have proved beyond the shadow of a

1905
01:28:24,410 --> 01:28:22,020
doubt that area 51 and a large

1906
01:28:25,490 --> 01:28:24,420
underground base out at Groom Lake does

1907
01:28:27,890 --> 01:28:25,500
exist

1908
01:28:30,530 --> 01:28:27,900
we've seen the workers fly in and out of

1909
01:28:33,649 --> 01:28:30,540
the facility and talked to alleged

1910
01:28:35,990 --> 01:28:33,659
former workers at Area 51 about their

1911
01:28:37,310 --> 01:28:36,000
back engineering of recovered alien

1912
01:28:40,070 --> 01:28:37,320
spacecraft

1913
01:28:42,890 --> 01:28:40,080
we've seen actual footage of man-made

1914
01:28:45,350 --> 01:28:42,900
flying discs both American and Russian

1915
01:28:48,709 --> 01:28:45,360
and there are warehouses Across America

1916
01:28:51,770 --> 01:28:48,719
housing files like these full of UFO

1917
01:28:54,050 --> 01:28:51,780
reports and alien abductions

1918
01:28:57,350 --> 01:28:54,060
body of evidence just a figment of

1919
01:29:00,050 --> 01:28:57,360
someone's imagination I think not as we

1920
01:29:02,270 --> 01:29:00,060
move closer to Millennium mankind will

1921
01:29:05,330 --> 01:29:02,280
have to face up to the startling reality

1922
01:29:07,610 --> 01:29:05,340
that we may not be alone and that a

1923
01:29:13,810 --> 01:29:07,620
select group of U.S government officials

1924
01:29:21,169 --> 01:29:17,629
I occasionally think how quickly our

1925
01:29:23,689 --> 01:29:21,179
difference is worldwide would vanish if

1926
01:29:26,870 --> 01:29:23,699
we were facing an alien threat from

1927
01:29:28,490 --> 01:29:26,880
outside this world

1928
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I ask you

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01:29:35,300 --> 01:29:43,080
[Music]

1930
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[Applause]

1931
01:29:51,090 --> 01:29:49,390
foreign